03 Ram Check engine light

Ok. My installer is trying to install a Compustar remote starter in my 2003 Ram Quad Cab no security black key, 4.7 liter gas, quad cab. The problem we are having is when we use the remote to start the truck the check engine light stays on. If I just use the key, no light. Once we use the remote, the light comes on. The problem is that the light won't go out until you unhook the battery to clear the trouble codes. The truck starts and runs, and I can take control with the key. But that light won't go out. He said that there are 4 wires that need to be energized, and he had put power to all of them. But he also mentioned that my truck had  something like 7 wires that could be hooked up and he had never seen that before. My truck is a 2003 that was made in December of 02.

The other question is I noticed that they had charged me for a security bypass, my truck doesn't have a security system from the factory or aftermarket. Any other reason why they would do this, or is it a potential mistake. I don't' need to be flinging around an extra $30 if I don't have to.

Third. We had an 03 Accord done also and had to have a key put under the dash. Tech support at DEI and at Compustar said it wasn't needed, but he couldn't do it with the wires he had in his hand. My Accord was made in Japan, could this make a difference. It was the first Accord in MN for 03. Personally I think that may be half the problem. \

All in all, not a very productive weekend.

I could really use a hand with this one asap. I'll be going back tomorrow and we'lll be digging into this one again.

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Here's what's on the reciept...

Micro Doorlock relay

Factory Alarm Disarm.

3rd accesory realy

4th accesory relay

All were $30 each.

Not sure if the antigrind relay was installe. Is there an easy way to chech? I suppose just hitting the key to see if it grinds would be one way, but that sounds pretty crude and risky. I'll ask him in when I bring the truck in.

Could the factory disarm be used for antigrind? Or could they have used it for a 1 or 2 accesory? I'm pretty raw on this stuff.

As for the Honda, two tech supports couldn't help them. My vin number indicates that the car was the 1366 03 built in Japan. Thats probably within the first month of production . 55 card per hour, 5 day workweek. So this one might be different from the USA built cars. Not sure how I can check on that. I think it's BS that I have to buy a key to shove under the dash. That could cost me close to $100. OVerall this became a pretty expensive adventure.

Thanks for the advice. Any other iseas are welcome! LOL

I got charged for a factory alarm disarm for both the Ram and the Accord. Are you saying that having the key (555U) is a better thing even though I need to buy a key and get it programmed? (possible cost pushing $100 depending on the dealer).

Thanks for the tip on the second ignition wire. He says he energized four wires. Two ignition, two acc. I haven't seen the wiring so I don't know. He seem's like an ok installer. He said he's doen dozens of Rams and this one was different because the wiring harness had seven wires, not 4.

Ok, he figured out the check engine light. The wiring diagram shows that either the red or RED / white needs to be energized for the second ignition. At  first he had just the red hooked up, then he hooked up both and that cured the light.

They also gave me a credit for that $30 Factory alarm bypass.

I found out today that the Honda Key will cost me over $130 to get programmed. That really sucks. He tried both the H and the U. They were talking about trying an "I" module which is supposed to be new and used primaraly for Lexus and Toyota. It is supposed to learn the codes and not require the key. The manager said that the documents for that module don't list Hondas, but the tech really wants to try it. I didn't get the whole name of the thing, sorry.

I need a bettter way than just using the key. Thats a pricy thing to use. My car was a J code with a really low serial number, but I think there should be some way to bypass that system.