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b4tn 
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Today When I did a remote start the car startted but it kept trying to start for a bit and I could hear the starter grinding. So I tested it by starting the car and turning the key and the starter was grinding. Is this an option I have to turn on in the alarm?
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Oh its a viper 790
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-the grinding when remote start might be the tach has not been learn or hook up.
-the antigrind is ON by default. what the antigrind is pretty obvious, leaving it ON will turn on the "ground-when-arm" wire, thus activate the starter kill relay to protect from accidentally re-starting.
hope it explain your case. post your result
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b4tn 
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I think I found the problem.  There is a purple wire on the remote start harness it is the starter relay on wire.  In the manual it says to connect this wire to the car side.  I wasnt sure if this meant the starter side of the kill relay or the ignition side of the kill relay.  I hooked it to the starter side, was this right or wrong?
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First off, What car is it? Does it have a transponder key? That may be why it won't remote start

Second, try putting the starter wire back together, take out the relay and twist the starter wire back together. Start the car with the key. If it works, the problem is in the relay or the actual remote start wiring. Yes the purple wire from the remote start unit wil lgoto the starter side of the relay, not the side coming from the car.

Third, the unit may need to learn the tach signal, without it the car can keep cranking.

Let me know what car it is and I'll try to help you.

b4tn 
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Its a 95 Mazda MX6.  The remote start works fine as well as normal key starting.  The problem I am having is that sometimes the car will turn over quickly and start but the starter keeps turning for a brief second grinding the starter.

Second if I remote start the car, get in, put the key in the ignition and turn it as if I was going to start it (while its running) it will grind the starter.

My tach wire from the Alarm is going to the tach output of my MSD ignition.  Due to the wiring of the MSD ignition the tach out put on the Distributer doesnt work anymore.

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AH... Ok. If it grinds when remote started then the relay has been wired wrong. Is the car armed when yu start it? Make sure its wired like this. Orange from alarm goes to pin 85, 86 goes to 12v constant, 87a to key side and pin30 to starter. Make sure to hook the purple to the side of pin 30. Try that. If that doesn't work tell me how you have it wired.
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I will double check but I am pretty sure that is how it is wired.  The starter kill relay is prewired so that should leave little room for error.
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Give this a try. From the starter kill relay. There should be a black, yellow, orange, and green wire. Cut the black wire about 2 inches from the relay. Tap the black wire into the the purple starter wire. The left over black connect to the green to extend the wire. Now hook the purple to the starter side and the green, now black due to the extension to the key side. Let me know what that does for you. Also, the yellow should be hooked up to your ignition wire not your 12volt wire. Change that up if you have it hooked up to the 12volt.
Cris

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