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amboolance 
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Posted: October 16, 2003 at 9:31 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, to answer some of the questions... The tach wire I used is the one under the hood, next to the firewall, right in front of the driver's side of the engine compartment. I spliced into the wire right after a connection at that area. Now to clarify... when I RS the car, it's as if the key was turned all the way on, but there is no cranking of the engine or turn over.   I'm guessing that it probably is the clutch. Now about this clutch... which wire do I need to attach to the clutch switch to bypass it? I think you're saying I need to gound the same wire that I used in the hood and the door switch, but I'm not sure. Could ya' clear taht up for me? You guys are great! Def will be recommending and supporting this site!
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Posted: October 16, 2003 at 9:39 PM / IP Logged  
Other than the clutch, make sure that you have the starter wire on the motor side of the starter disable relay ( if applicable ).
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Very first: Make sure it is the clutch by sitting in the vehicle and depressing the clutch with your foot and go through the ready mode steps and then see if everything works. Then if it does, test the switch above the clutch to see how it wroks, then use a wire from the RS to either directly connect to one of the wires at the switch, or use one to trigger a relay that is connected to the switch. I mentioned that I used a (-) out when running wire which is the WHITE/ Green wire (J2-8) on a Toyota. If you have already used that wire you can use use a relay and a different output. Test the switch and get back to us.
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Posted: October 17, 2003 at 5:12 PM / IP Logged  
Well it isn't the clutch... I tried starting it all sorts of ways as suggested, but it doesn't make any difference. A light went on (in my head that is) when you mentioned the starter wire... I 'm not sure where I wired it... I betcha that's the problem! I'm running out right now to check... I'm hella excited! It makes sense to me know why it's not starting! Ok... I'll keep ya'updated, and I can't say enough thanks! CS 423, Arming Problems? - Page 2 -- posted image. CS 423, Arming Problems? - Page 2 -- posted image. CS 423, Arming Problems? - Page 2 -- posted image.
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DOWT!Ok, so I checked the starter wire hook-up... I had the Starter Output wire from the RS system spliced into the starter wire right before the strater wire enters the fuse harness. I assume that is WAY wrong based on what you've told me. Ok, so I've looked for the starter wire behind the fuse harness... that would be the motor side and after the relay right? Ok, so where is the starter wire? I can't find it behind the harness! Am I doing the right thing, looking in the right place, and looking for the same color wire? (black with white for Civic)
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Posted: October 18, 2003 at 8:05 AM / IP Logged  

What color is the wire you used on the car for the starter wire ? It should be BLACK/ WHITE and to test if this is the correct one, take a 12 volt jumper wire and while the car is out of gear ( IN NUETRAL ) momentarily touch the starter wire. If the starter engages, then you have the right wire. If it does not, then you have a problem with the wrong wire or a break in the starter wire ( which is unlikely if you can start it with the key ).

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Posted: October 18, 2003 at 1:39 PM / IP Logged  
GrrRrRrrrr... ugh... ok, so I did have the wrong wire. Found the correct starter wire and it STILL won't start or turn over! I'm absolutley sure that this is the starter wire because I did the "jump" test and it worked. The RS unit is telling me it's in "engine protection override"... I've tried doing what it says to correct that, but it still won't work. I guess it's back to this starter wire again. I've again spliced into the wire right before it enter the harness above the fuse box... is that the correct location? Does placing the wire after the harness make a difference?   Thanks for all your help! I may need mental help soon if I don't get this thing to work! (Is there a message board for that?)CS 423, Arming Problems? - Page 2 -- posted image. CS 423, Arming Problems? - Page 2 -- posted image. CS 423, Arming Problems? - Page 2 -- posted image.
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Posted: October 18, 2003 at 1:51 PM / IP Logged  
If the unit goes into ENGINE OVER_VRANK PROTECTION you have to reset the unit and reset the tach programming for the unit. Where did you get the tach wire from and what color did you use ?
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I've reset the unit a couple of times... It still seems to have no effect and reenters crank protection. When I attempt to RS after reset, the tach readjusts itself to 7. I got the Tach wire from under the hood, in front of the driver, right next to the fire wall. There is a "bundle" of wires that meet at the harness. I cut into the blue wire.
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Posted: October 18, 2003 at 5:51 PM / IP Logged  
There is a BLUE wire at the distributor that is on a 2 pin harness plug. Try this instead of the other wire & re learn the tach and try it again.
Jeff
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