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fintheman 
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Posted: March 31, 2004 at 11:55 AM / IP Logged  

Well, I posted this to another site, but seeing as this is the only glassing discussion on the net really.  I thought you guys might be of help.

I know all the materials that you'll need, etc.,  But I wanted to ask if this would be alright to do.

Well, I have a 2001 Cavalier that I am basically ripping everything stock out of it, and putting in a totally new system.

I have some CDT 61's coming in soon, and I've been worried about having them free air.
If you look at this site
http://home.comcast.net/~shredder5/audio/6.5/6.5.html
That is exactly my car.
What I was going to do, was to make that MDF/Baffe piece as it shows on that, but. Instead of just using that piece and leaving it free air, I was thinking about glassing it.
I believe there is still more room behind that plastic piece as shown. (2inches)
Do you think if I expand it out as much as possible (nook and cranny it) that I will have enough space for a sealed enclousure inside my door?
I've been looking at glassing tutorials, and this doesn't look like a hard project at all.
1. Make the Baffle
2. Clear our as much **** from behind it (the plastic and whatever)
3. Mount the Baffle
4. Get tinfoil and start spreading it out
5. Do the normal fiberglass procedures while the baffle is still in there.
6. Sand the excess and line the speaker hole with weatherstrip/caulk, and let dry, and mount.
Am I missing anything in here? And I see that a lot of people take out the Fiberglass to do more work to it, but I don't see myself needing to do that, (or being able to) in this application.

I know this may be a common question, but I just wanted to double check with the experts before I went ahead and started.

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superstreet786 
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Posted: March 31, 2004 at 3:29 PM / IP Logged  
you might have enough room... try it
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sam1 
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Posted: March 31, 2004 at 3:32 PM / IP Logged  

id just go free air and dynamat it.  besides, how would the window roll down?

btw, welcome to the 12volt.=)

93accordSE 
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Posted: March 31, 2004 at 6:07 PM / IP Logged  
True, the window does need to roll down. Maybe if you gave the window an inch or and inch and a half, make sure that the enclosure is easy to remove incase you need to replace or remove the window later on.
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Posted: March 31, 2004 at 11:59 PM / IP Logged  
The hardest part about the baffle is the thickness of the fiberglass and how much you going to be allowed for space from the back of the enclosure to the window frame and from the bottom of the speaker magnet to the bottom of the fiberglass enclosure. I would try it and if it doesn't work, you would have wasted about $ 30 in materials and some time, but if it works out, they will sound great ! First post, yay! -- posted image.
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fintheman 
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Posted: April 01, 2004 at 4:23 AM / IP Logged  

So I guess I gotta make sure that I have the window rolled down when I do this.

The part I am confused about.

Why do people first put tape, then the tinfoil?

Can I just not put the tinfoil and tape it into place?

And I think I found a cheap way for materials, I went to a boat shop and they have a fiberglass repair kit with 3 sq ft in it, I would figure that would be enough for two layers.  I am also gonna see if I can make an extra ring or two outta some MDF to see if I save face and get a tad more space outta of it.

I just want to make sure I have the cleanest sounding mid-range possible.

-fin 

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Posted: April 01, 2004 at 8:50 AM / IP Logged  
You want to put down tape first ( at least 2 layer's ) is for the protection of the surface underneath the tape. Tin foil as you know is not very strong and if it tears or breaks on you while fiberglassing, it will bleed fiberglass through and will stick to the surface underneath it. If you have tape underneath, it's no big deal, but say if your doing something near the carpet or close you your panels, then your in trouble.
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fintheman 
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Posted: April 01, 2004 at 10:36 PM / IP Logged  

Okay, so just make sure I have everything protected around the area that I will be glassing

My door panel will be completely off, and when the door is left open, there aren't many chances of it getting on anything else.

 

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