Does the box matter?

HEY! Lets write a book.... Legend don't go with either of those enclosures. You will be much better off asking how to build a sub enclosure for a specific sub and doing it yourself.Prefab boxes generally blow. (up)dream it, build it, fiberglass it

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auex wrote: I love it when people can actually hold a debate here, as opposed to some other sites I view.

It's because of two things: respect for each other and recognition that there is more than one "correct" answer for many questions.  It's about being a professional.  I also love that aspect of this forum and is why I devote so much time to it!

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mikedawg, I deleted your post since it was an example of a NON-professional comment.Support the12volt.com

im not a proffesional in mobile electronics nor have i ever claimed to be in the past.always looking for new info and willing to give it

stevdart wrote: The thing is this:  the original post asked, " What benefit does a box like this (bandpass) have over a box like this (sealed)?"  It is not a question on speaker selection, but just a question about enclosures.  To answer it with a discourse about speaker selection would be to change the subject, and the author of this thread would not get the answer he was seeking.  If one who is replying had to qualify every answer he makes with every variable that might have some affect on the total system performance, the intended response would get lost in the paragraphs. Keeping responses short and sweet and to the point makes for good reading and useful help.  Now, this topic is off the course of its original intent.

I guess I figured the question was answered already.  And it really isn't a change in the subject, but a widening of the topic at hand.  Now we aren't discussing just different enclosures, but how they compare to driver selection.  But if you guys do feel that his question wasn't answered, and I completely hijacked his thread than I do apologize. 

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mikedawg wrote: sorry steven, as much as i hate to say it. i agree with dyohn and stevdart.

That's no problem.  Dyon is a very smart guy.  In fact, I admit that I could be wrong.  After all, it wouldn't be the first time.  I guess so far I haven't been convinced.  Maybe it is just a difference in perspectives.  You guys are installers and deal mainly with enclosures.  I work for a speaker manufacturer and deal mainly with the speaker side of things. 

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Off 95Legends topic: If only everyone dealt with things with this maturity. Especially professors!!! Also, I don't know what comment was made, but you don't have to be "professional" to make a "non-professional" comment. If it was something that was uncalled for, just like some other member's posts, then that could also be "non-professional" comment. In my opinion, this website seems to be one of the most "professional" forums I have signed up for, and I would love for it to stay that way. (Sorry for ranting, I'm a college student during finals week)Jon

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Steven Kephart wrote: That's no problem.  Dyon is a very smart guy.  In fact, I admit that I could be wrong.  After all, it wouldn't be the first time.  I guess so far I haven't been convinced.  Maybe it is just a difference in perspectives.  You guys are installers and deal mainly with enclosures.  I work for a speaker manufacturer and deal mainly with the speaker side of things.

Thanks Steven, and back at'cha.  But you're not "wrong" and neither am I.  I think we are talking from two slightly different perspectives.  Let me try to see if I can find a middle ground.

If you are starting with a given loudspeaker, then the enclosure you choose for that speaker will have a huge impact on it's performance in your system.  I say at that point it becomes "the most important thing."  If you are starting with a clean slate and designing a new system, then both the speaker and its enclosure must be considered (probably equally.)  How about that for a generalized statement?  I believe the original question in this thread was the former: the speakers had already been chosen.

You said in an earlier post "it's all in the install."  I have to argue that this is true AFTER the components are chosen.  BEFORE the components are chosen, it's all in the system design.  I think perhaps you were comng at this question assuming we were in the before stage, and I was coming in assuming after.  I actualy work in both areas, more in the before than the after these days and less in cars than in buildings, so I do see where you're coming from.

Shall we move on? 

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yeah my post was kinda uncalled for. i just dont like people that think they know everything, downgrade another persons post. everybody has their opinion and the forum is the perfect place to state that opionion. if someone wants to "nitpick" then let em. this post will probably be deleted too. i like your system aggie. not a bad job man. its good to see something different in fiberglass sub enclosures.always looking for new info and willing to give it