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yrfc123

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Posted: February 16, 2005 at 1:17 AM / IP Logged

I have installed about 20 compustar units, and have not encountered this problem on any cars except mine. This problem only started happening recently. Here's the problem:

Upon remote starting, the stater will continue to crank, but the car will not start, crank crank crank. Sounds like a simple fix you say? Nope. This problem only happens IF the car has been sitting for over 30 minutes. If I try to start it BEFORE 30 minutes, it will start just fine. NOTE: I'm not sure on EXACTLY how long it is after I can't start it, the 30 minutes is just a ballpark range.

It is NOT the immobilizer bypass, I checked to see if the key icon flashes on the dashboard to does not come on.

It is NOT the tach sense, if it were the tach sense, the car would atleast start, not continue cranking.

If I get in my car, and reactivate reservation mode, and remote-start it right after, it will work fine. Like I said, it only happens after I've been parked for X amount of minutes or more.

I've come to the conclusion that it is just a faulty compustar brain. Does anyone have a better conclusion to this? Has anyone encountered a problem like this?

If it is infact a faulty brain, it is very dissapointing to me. I'm not an "authorized dealer", because I simply do not trust any shops to touch my car. I've gone to apply for jobs at local shops, and NONE of them solder. Hell, one of the guys didn't even know what soldering was! "So you weld the wires together?" he said...

Anyway, anybody have any suggestions about what to do? I doubt compustar's going to cover my warranty, and the seller I purchased it from a year ago has fallen off the face of the earth. Suggestions?

Thanks in advance

yrfc123

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Posted: February 16, 2005 at 1:20 AM / IP Logged

Just another note, it's a 2wss-as with the CM3000 brain, version 1. I got this right after the black 1-way SS remotes came out.

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Posted: February 16, 2005 at 10:10 AM / IP Logged

What make, model and year vehicle is this ? What tach wire did you use ?

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yrfc123

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Posted: February 16, 2005 at 2:55 PM / IP Logged

Velocity Motors wrote:

What make, model and year vehicle is this ? What tach wire did you use ?

98 honda prelude

Blue tach wire behind the gauge cluster.

Tach wire was taken directly from the service manual, not the DEI tech sheet. If it were a tach wire issue, why would it work before the X minute mark, but not after. Also, I believe the tach wire is what tells the starter to STOP cranking after the engine has been STARTED, AND to tell the compustar that the car is indeed running. It feels as if one of the ignition wires is not getting power. *shrug*

extreme1

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Posted: February 16, 2005 at 3:29 PM / IP Logged

what did you use for bypass?

I've had 1 or 2 of the CM4200's with no ign or crank outputs, but this was right out of the box.

Shaughn Murley

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yrfc123

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Posted: February 16, 2005 at 4:08 PM / IP Logged

extreme1 wrote:

what did you use for bypass?

I've had 1 or 2 of the CM4200's with no ign or crank outputs, but this was right out of the box.

DEI 555D. It's not the immobilizer bypass either. I have verified it by putting my actual key in the slot (like you were to do during programming). Same result. Seems like a compustar problem.

yrfc123

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Posted: February 21, 2005 at 5:38 PM / IP Logged

TTT

Seems to happen about 30 seconds - 1 minute after reservsation mode is set.

Remote starting before then will work

after 30sec-1min, wont work =-(

anyone?

10nesne1

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Posted: February 22, 2005 at 3:02 AM / IP Logged

the tech wire is "blue" correct on Honda.

Sound like you have a tech wire issue. Installed a compustar on a '97 Ford F150 it have the same problem. Changed a couple brains and it starts fine on the first tried and waited 10 minutes then it over cranks.

Had to find a different tech wire from the BCM and it fixed the issue. Customer was very happy and gave me a tip.

yrfc123

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Posted: February 22, 2005 at 4:36 AM / IP Logged

10nesne1 wrote:

the tech wire is "blue" correct on Honda.

Had to find a different tech wire from the BCM and it fixed the issue. Customer was very happy and gave me a tip.

It's not overcranking in my situation. It won't even start!

yrfc123

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Posted: February 22, 2005 at 4:38 AM / IP Logged

10nesne1 wrote:

the tech wire is "blue" correct on Honda.

Had to find a different tech wire from the BCM and it fixed the issue. Customer was very happy and gave me a tip.

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