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audiobass10

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Posted: March 27, 2005 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged

3 db's should be quite noticable. 1 db is approximately the minimum amount of audible increase.

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wrathchild281

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Posted: March 27, 2005 at 4:49 PM / IP Logged

ok thanks alot you guys

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Posted: March 27, 2005 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged

1) That is wrong. 3db is NOT "quite noticable" at that volume level. It takes a full 10db increase to sound like the music is twice as loud.

2) You'll _never_ notice the difference until you are hitting the maximum SPL level of the system without the extra driver(s).

I state again. Unless you plan to compete, I think 3 or 4 drivers is a waste of money.

Take the saved money and buy better quality drivers, amplification, head unit, components, whatever. I just feel the gain is too small to be worth it for anyone but competitors.

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kfr01

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Posted: March 27, 2005 at 7:23 PM / IP Logged

wrathchild281 wrote:

ok but isnt it 1/3 louder and 1/3 louder sounds like a pretty big difference to me

No, it is not 1/3 louder. The decibel is a logarithmic unit. i.e. if 10db is a doubling of loudness, and it is, most of this perceived gain happens in the second half, not the first. When listening to music, not test tones, 3db is usually just audible, especially at extreme volume levels.

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wrathchild281

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Posted: March 28, 2005 at 1:39 AM / IP Logged

so then how come somebody with 2 12's and compared to someone with 4 of the same 12's will have alot more spl and be way louder?

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Posted: March 28, 2005 at 9:29 AM / IP Logged

They won't be unless the guy with 2 12's has a sh*tty install. I've heard two 12's beat the crap outa 4 12's. It's all about the install and if its done correctly only the mic will be able to tell much of a difference.

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Posted: March 28, 2005 at 9:49 AM / IP Logged

i agree with oonik...i had 1 MTX 8000 12" sub in my 92 cavalier beating out people with a pair of 12's but along shot.....kiiep in mind this was the first year they had the 8k's and i was running the old kenwood mask tape deck to a kenwood X301 amp, the sub was in a 1.25cu.ft box and i was hitting 140.4db's on the dash with out even using a bass test track (it was at an official competition) the next car to me was hitting 138 with a pair of RF's., so take your time on the design and do it right and you'll have enough bass or spl with 2 subs to more the satasify yerself.

wrathchild281

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Posted: March 28, 2005 at 9:57 AM / IP Logged

ok ya but i mean its not like the memphis mclass subs are bad or anything but would you guys recommend like 2 12in kicker L7's instead of 4 of the memphis subs. What other subs would you recommend me to get i would a bit of sq but i really want loud spl

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Posted: March 28, 2005 at 10:00 AM / IP Logged

If you want any SQ don't get the L7s. They get loud as hell but sound like arse while doing it. Maybe look at the forum favs? (Adire, RE, ID...)

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wrathchild281

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Posted: March 28, 2005 at 10:06 AM / IP Logged

ok what about like the memphis m3 subs or mojo subs?

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