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hideo namigata 
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Posted: December 22, 2005 at 4:42 AM / IP Logged  

Hi guys, I have not so expensive digital meter without clamps. If I try to find correct wires with coupler nearby

then I can check it but if the wire is in tight place and I need to test it I need to cut the wire to test but I do not want to cut it unless it is absolutely necessary. How do you find the correct wires without cutting them? Maybe T-taps to use ? with the digital meter without clamps ? Any better way to find, appreciated wtih any advise.

Powermyster 
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i have a stanley knife modified and a plug my meter into the bottom of it. push the blade into the wire. and get a reading that way on't need to tape the wire usally.
well thats how i do it
Why oh Why didn't i take the blue pill
Darren Power
Mike M2 
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Use your wire cutters and gently hold the wire with them making sure not to cut it. A gentle squeeze will make contact with the wire underneath the shield. Place your test probe agianst the cutters. You need to make sure you don't touch any metal....
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i would do what mike suggested with a stanley not cutters. no finesse to cutters
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Darren Power
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Posted: December 22, 2005 at 10:30 AM / IP Logged  
hideo namigata wrote:

Hi guys, I have not so expensive digital meter without clamps. If I try to find correct wires with coupler nearby

then I can check it but if the wire is in tight place and I need to test it I need to cut the wire to test but I do not want to cut it unless it is absolutely necessary. How do you find the correct wires without cutting them? Maybe T-taps to use ? with the digital meter without clamps ? Any better way to find, appreciated wtih any advise.

Personally, if time permits asking someone is probably is the best thing. This site is one of them. Getting good wiring diagram is also important.   Otherwise a piercing probe is the best thing to use. Everything I have found is secondary.
Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it.Finding wires -- posted image.
Powermyster 
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maybe its cos of my location but the colours a very rarely right on the diagrams that why i have to test everything
Why oh Why didn't i take the blue pill
Darren Power
dualsport 
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Finding wires -- posted image.
If you frequently need to probe unknown wires, something like this would be good- available from digikey and various other places.
I usually would just use a pin to make it through the insulation with the minimum amount of disturbance, but the insulation piercing test probe is a lot more finger-friendly..
dualsport 
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Finding wires -- posted image.
This one is twice the price, but it's got nice extended tips to reach into a bundle, and you can just connect it to your meter with the banana jack-
Just slip the wire in and push to probe.
natsys 
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Dualsport,
Where do you get that thing?
I didn't realize that I've gotta have it until I saw it.
-Rob
dualsport 
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They've got them at Digikey.com, just search for "insulation piercing" and they should come up-
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