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rodkparker 
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Posted: December 28, 2002 at 5:02 PM / IP Logged  

Working on a Chevy Venture 2003 trying to install a remote starter/Alarm system. Everything works but the remote start,i think it is in the ignition, i think i dont have something hooked up right ? when i push the transmitter all i get is 5 beeps of my horn. If you could help PLEASE! Rod

PS if you have a Ignition diagram for my make year and model would be great.

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Posted: December 28, 2002 at 5:11 PM / IP Logged  

Did bypass the Passlock III sysetm ? Here is a wiring diagram for this vehicle.:

|       ITEM      |     WIRE COLOR     |POL|       WIRE LOCATION        |

|              12V|red & RED / white     |+  |ignition harness            |
|          STARTER|yellow              |+  |ignition harness            |
|         IGNITION|pink                |+  |ignition harness            |
|  SECOND IGNITION|white               |+  |ignition harness            |
|        ACCESSORY|orange              |+  |ignition harness            |
|       POWER LOCK|RED / black *3        |-  |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|     POWER UNLOCK|ORANGE / black *3     |-  |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|       LOCK MOTOR|gray                |   |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|     UNLOCK MOTOR|tan                 |   |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|    DISARM DEFEAT|tan                 |   |BCM, to right of glove box  |
| PARKING LIGHTS +|brown               |   |drivers kick or light switch|
| PARKING LIGHTS -|BROWN / white         |   |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|       HEADLIGHTS|yellow              |+  |headlight switch            |
|     DOOR TRIGGER|gray/black *1       |-  |BCM, to right of glove box  |
| DOME SUPERVISION|use door trigger    |   |                            |
|  TRUNK/HATCH PIN|tied in with doors  |   |                            |
|TRNK/HTCH RELEASE|*6                  |-  |*6                          |
|  FCTRY ALARM ARM|arms with lock      |   |                            |
|FCTRY ALRM DISARM|disarms with unlock |   |                            |
| DISARM NO UNLOCK|*4                  |   |                            |
|       TACHOMETER|PURPLE / white        |   |ign coils or PCM *5         |
|      SPEED SENSE|green               |   |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|       BRAKE WIRE|white               |+  |brake switch                |
|     HORN TRIGGER|black               |-  |BCM, to right of glove box  |
|           WIPERS|purple *2           |+  |wiper motor                 |
|  LF WINDOW UP/DN|blue - brown        |A  |drivers window switch       |
|  RF WINDOW UP/DN|lt. blu - tan       |A  |drivers door harness        |
|  LR WINDOW UP/DN|not recommended     |   |                            |
|  RR WINDOW UP/DN|not recommended     |   |                            |
|        RADIO 12V|orange              |   |radio                       |
|     RADIO GROUND|BLACK/ white         |   |radio                       |
|     RADIO SWITCH|yellow              |   |radio                       |
| RADIO ILLUMINATE|gray/black          |   |radio                       |
|       LF SPEAKER|tan - gray          |   |radio                       |
|       RF SPEAKER|lt. grn - green     |   |radio                       |
|       LR SPEAKER|brown - yellow      |   |radio                       |
|       RR SPEAKER|blue - lt. blu      |   |radio                       |

Notes:

NOTE: This vehicle is equipped with the pass-key III immobilizer. Use DEI part number 555G or 555U to bypass during remote start mode. Use the lt. green (-) key sense wire at the steering column to interrupt the blue wire on the 555U so that when the key is inserted to do take over the vehicle does not see two transponders at the same time. Refer to directfax document #1079 for wiring information.  *1 To avoid the domelight delay use tan for the drivers door, blue for the passenger door and the liftgate, and orange for the sliding doors. All wires are negative trigger, located at the BCM and all need to be diode isolated from each other.    *2 This wire is only activated when the wipers are in the high/fast position. There is not a wire for the low setting.  *3 The door lock wires will only meter when turning the key in either door key cylinder. Also have to program the door lock pulse duration for 3.5 seconds to unlock the doors. On vehicles without the factory alarm, use lt. blue for lock and white for unlock. Find the wires in either kick panel.  *4 To disarm the factory alarm without unlocking the doors, use a 0.8 second pulse on the unlock wire.  *5 The ignition coil pack is on the top of the engine on the passenger side. The PCM is in the air cleaner assembly on the front of the engine compartment on the driver side, the wire is in the blue plug in pin 8.  *6 The driver side power sliding door is lt. blue/black (-) in the driver kick panel in the harness going to the rear. The passenger side power sliding door is lt. blue (-) in the passenger kick panel in the harness going to the rear.

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
rodkparker 
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Posted: December 30, 2002 at 12:30 PM / IP Logged  

Working on a Kings Gun alarm\remote start. the problem is every time the remote start trys to start the engine it just rolls a little bit.tryed moving tach sence to charger output +and starter solenoid plus the purple\white wire coming from the coil. but same thing. I know i have to override the transponder bypass but i leave the key in the ignition.this should take care of the transponder right? so please help with some things to check.

Chevy Venture 2003 PS thanks for all your help! Rod 

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Posted: December 30, 2002 at 12:39 PM / IP Logged  
try using the PURPLE / WHITE wire for the tach signal instead or an injectore wire will do as well. For the injector, use one of the uncommon colored wires for this.
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
rodkparker 
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Posted: December 30, 2002 at 1:56 PM / IP Logged  

your answer was. try using the PURPLE / WHITE wire for the tach signal instead or an injectore wire will do as well. For the injector, use one of the uncommon colored wires for this.

I tryed this and still have the same thing. is there anything else that would cause the same symptoms. Remote start trying to start but moves just a little bit not even one turn of engine? Rod Thanks

rodkparker 
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Posted: December 31, 2002 at 4:21 PM / IP Logged  
 tryed all the places that you told me to try but still the engine only rolls very little. it must be something other than the tack wire in the wrong place.Rod
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Posted: December 31, 2002 at 4:34 PM / IP Logged  
Are you sure you programmed the tach to the RS units properly ? Did you get the confirmation from the RS unit ?
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA

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