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hudd4473

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 3:22 AM / IP Logged

Car starts the stops running seconds after it stops cranking........wondering if there is a IGN. 3 wire maybe......its a crimestopper remote start plus alarm.......the instuctions say something about GMs haveing a white or green wire in the ignition harness......what should i do ..........anybody ever have any problems like this i thriple checked my conn.s they r all good......please help fast

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 8:43 AM / IP Logged

There is a WHITE second ignition wire that requires connection. Also, you have Passlock I in this vehicle that you have to bypass.

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hudd4473

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 9:45 AM / IP Logged

are you sure there is passlock becuase there is no chip in the key and no security light on the dash. should i connect that white wire with the other wire i have connected to the ignition 2 output of the car starter.

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The Passlock is not on theshaft of the key rather embedded into the head of the key. The information that I have says that it has the Passlock I system, but you never know. From what you re saying about the start problem, it sounds like a Passlock problem.

Make sure that the 2nd ignition wire on the RS unit is a full 12 volt output with no limiting amperage feed. Some systems have a 2nd ignition wire with a 6 amp limit to their output while others have a full 2nd ignition output without a limit of amps. If the wire is only a (-) trigger for a relay then you will need to install a relay.

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hudd4473

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 12:13 PM / IP Logged

ok got that problem covered thank you very much ....do you think it would be posssible to give me a diagram of how i wold connect ign 2 and ign.3 to a relay using my ign2 output of the starter to activate the relay ........im bad w/ relays i have 5 pin and four pin relay to use which ever one i need......thank you TOM

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 4:29 PM / IP Logged

Use the 5 pin relay but make sure that it has 30, 86, 85, 87 & 87a on the posts. This is a SPDT relay rated at 30/40 amp.

Wire up the relay like this for any extra IGN wires or ACC wires:

86 & 87 : 12 volts fused constant
85: GROUND OUT WHEN RUNNING
30: Output to 2nd or 3rd ignition
87a: NOT USED

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hudd4473

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 4:43 PM / IP Logged

what will ground out when running....... now i installed the bypass module and the car doesnt even start like it used to it just cranks (still starts w/ key thou) this is a design tech module........heres how its hooked

YELLOW /GREEN-----yellow --at ign. switch

GREEN / WHITE -----12+ constant

gray/black-----to bulb test wire

gray -------black passlock harness wire

white------yellow passlock wire---engine side

yellow/red-----yellow passlock wire----key side

PLEASE HELP ME

hudd4473

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 11:14 PM / IP Logged

remote starter doesnt work.......car starts then two seconds after cranking the motor shuts down .......hooked up as follows....

Crimestopper alarm/ remote starter

2 constant 12v --- Battery

Ignition ---- Pink wire -----ign.switch

IGN.2----- White wire ----- Ign. switch

Ign.3 ------ not used no Ign. 3 on my R/S

ACC----- ORange ---- Ign. Switch

Tach----- WHite wire on Ign. module (2.4 engine)

Brake Switch ------ Blue

Starter ----------- Yellow ---- Ign. switch

Used a passlock 1 Bypass module .......designtech model......Used (-) output on R/S to controll module.....(says in the Book to the starter to use that wire, Kind of like another Ign. Output)

Car runs fine w/ the key starting it.

hudd4473

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Posted: January 01, 2003 at 11:22 PM / IP Logged

I have three Ign. wires .......is it possible to use my (-) feed to ground one then use the same one to ground out a relay......or should i use my Ign. 2 which is 12+ to trip two relays to switch Ing. 2 and Ing.3 .......could that be why the car is stalling out........anything would help .......the wiring diagrams say there are 3 ign. wires at the switch but my R/S only has wires for Ign. and Ign.2......

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Posted: January 02, 2003 at 4:55 AM / IP Logged

What kind of passlock bypass module did you use? Make sure to hook up the bulb check wire coming out the power harness... and your only gonna use the yellow and black wire from the key cylinder

My Personal Installer Note: Connectors are easy, neat, and professional. But do you know how to crimp properly?

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