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adaseb

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Posted: September 21, 2008 at 9:40 PM / IP Logged

I am working on a 2006 Dodge Caravan vehicle and this vehicle has a 2nd starter and needs a PKUCH2X bypass module.

I am wondering can I connect directly any "Ground Output When Running" wires or do I have to use a relay for each. I ask this because the transponder bypass and the 2nd starter relay both need to be connected to this output of the remote start module. So can I just connect these 2 connections together or can this cause problems?

For the PKUCH2X bypass there are 2 connections both labelled"MUX (Violet/Brown) Located in Ignition Harness" their purpose is to "Starter/2nd Start & Accessory (Resistance) Activation" there is a illustration showing one wire going to the Ignition harness and another to the BCM but where do I connect these exactly?

howie ll

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Posted: September 21, 2008 at 9:43 PM / IP Logged

The current needed to switch these is quite low and shouldn't need relay switching, I would diode them though, 1N400 series with the bands towards the R/S.

adaseb

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Posted: September 21, 2008 at 11:57 PM / IP Logged

I bought this bypass for a 2006 Dodge Caravan and I am having the biggest trouble programming the transponder.

I did all the steps and I just can't get it programmed. I put the key in without the factory transponder and put the ByPassKit next to it and the ALARM light keeps blinking and it won't program. I tried 10 times.

saskpuller

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:06 AM / IP Logged

First you are using a key with the integrated door remote on it right? I have had almost perfect results with programming using the following method. Insert first key and turn to on for 7 sec. Insert second key and the remove second key. Insert second key again and turn on. Security light will go out and then start blinking again. Now remove the electronics from key 1 and insert , turn to on while holding the bypass kit up to the transponder ring at the ignition barrel. Keep there until the light goes out. Trust me it will work. A test to see if it worked is to use the same key 1 without the electronics in it and hold the bypass by the ignition barrel, turn on, if light goes out, you're a winner!

adaseb

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:21 AM / IP Logged

Yes its the key with the integrated door remote.

When you say "Insert second key and remove second key" you just want me to put it in and take it straight out? Not turn it anywhere?

adaseb

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 12:52 PM / IP Logged

howie ll wrote:

The current needed to switch these is quite low and shouldn't need relay switching, I would diode them though, 1N400 series with the bands towards the R/S.

So on each "Ground Output when Running" connection put a diode where it will block current (if any) from going into the R/S?

Since I also have to connect the ignition and starter outputs from the R/S to the transponder should I use a diode on those also? since they are shorted between the transponder pin and the ignition harness pin?

adaseb

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 1:04 PM / IP Logged

I found some 1N4007 diodes? will these be sufficient?

howie ll

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 1:45 PM / IP Logged

You won't need diodes on the other wires, 4007 wil be fine.

howie ll

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 1:57 PM / IP Logged

You don't need to use the ground output for the second starter, sorry, just had another look at your first post. join starter output to 86, as well as first starter, grounmd to 85, permanent via 30amp fuse to 87 and 30 to 2nd starter wire.

adaseb

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Posted: September 22, 2008 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged

howie ll wrote:

In the installation manual it states to not use a relay on the first starter only the second.

Also which way should the diodes point for the Ground Output when running connection? Towards the R/S?

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