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04 f350 diesel viper 5904 wiring


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rmsmx13 
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Posted: November 23, 2013 at 1:25 PM / IP Logged  
I have been searching the forums and have gotten answers to many of my questions but would appreciate a double check of my wires I have listed and to see if anyone could assist with the ones I am not sure of. The following is a list on the harnesses and labels from the Viper 5904 System and the wires from the vehicle. Install is in a 2004 Ford F350 CrewCab Diesel- Automatic Transmission. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Main Harness
H1/1 – Red – 12+ Constant Input- Constant +
H1/2 – Black - Chassis Ground
H1/3 – Brown - Siren Output - Siren +
H1/4 – WHITE/ Brown – Parking Light Isolation Wire- Pin 87a of Onboard Relay – NOT USED
H1/5 – White – Parking Light Output– Brown – Behind Dimmer Switch Panel
H1/6 – Orange – (-) 500mA Ground When Armed Output - NOT USED
Door Lock Harness
1 – Blue – (-)500mA Unlock Output - BLACK/ White - VSM
3 – Green – (-)500mA Lock Output - WHITE/ Red - VSM
Remote Start Harness
H3/1 –Pink– Ignition 1 Input/output -WHITE/ Yellow
H3/2 – RED / White – Fused (30a) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay Input 87– Constant +
H3/3 – Orange – Accessory Output - Gray / YELLOW
H3/4 – Violet – Starter Output (Car Side of Starter) - Green
H3/5 – Green – Starter Input (Key Side of Starter) - Green
H3/6 – Red – Fused (30a) Ignition 1 Input - Constant +
H3/7 – Pink/White – Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output - RED / Black
H3/8 – Pink/Black – Flex Relay Input 87a Key side If required of Flex Relay -Not Used
H3/9 – RED / Black – Fused (30a) Accessory/Starter Input – Constant +
24 Pin Harness
1 – Pink/White – (-)200mA Ignition 2/Flex Output- Not Sure ?
2 – Blue/White – (-)200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output -Not Used
3 – RED / White – (-)200mA Trunk Release -Not Used
4 – BLACK / YELLOW – (-)200mA Dome Light Status - Blk/Lt Blue-Pass kick panel Follow Below
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant fused @ 5 Amps
-Relay Pin 85 to H2/4 -Relay Pin 30 to Truck BLACK/ Light Blue (+)
5 – Dark Blue – (-)200mA Status Output – Not Sure ?
6 – WHITE/ Black – (-)200mA Aux 3 Output -Not Used
7 – WHITE/ Violet – (-)200mA Aux 1 Output - Not Used
8 – ORANGE / Black – (-)200mA Aux 4 Output - Not Used
9 – Gray – Hood Pin
10 – Blue – Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input -Not Used
11 – WHITE/ Blue – Activation Input - Not Sure?
12 – Violet/White –Tachometer Input - GREEN / WHITE Behind Fuse Panel
13 – BLACK/ White – Neutral Safety/Parking Brake Input – Ground for Automatic Transmission
14 – GREEN/ Black – (-)200mA Factory Alarm Disarm Output - Not Used
15 – Green – (-) Door Input – Not Sure ?
16 – BROWN / Black –(-)200mA Horn Honk Output - Dark Blue
17 – Pink –(-)200mA Ignition 1 Output – Not Sure?
18 – Violet - (+) Door Input – Not Sure?
19 – Violet/Black - (-)200mA Aux 2 Output - Not Used
20 – Brown – (+) Brake Shutdown Input - Light Green Brake
21 – Violet / YELLOW – (-)200mA Starter Output – Not Sure?
22 – Gray/Black – (-) Diesel Wait to start Input - Not Used Use Delay timer
23 – Orange – (-)200mA Accessory Output - Extra ACC2 Relay
 Follow Below
Relay Pin 85 to H2/23 Orange -Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant
-Relay Pin 30 to Acc2 BLUE/LT GREEN @ ignition harness
Relay Pin 87a not used - insulate
24 – GREEN / WHITE - (-)200mA Factory Alarm Arm Output - Not Used
As you can See I have 7 Wires From the 24 pin harness I am not sure if are used or not. Do the 1 and 17 wires connect to the remote start wires or are those there to be used if the flex relay is used?
1 – Pink/White – (-)200mA Ignition 2/Flex Output- Not Sure ?
5 – Dark Blue – (-)200mA Status Output – Not Sure ?
11 – WHITE/ Blue – Activation Input - Not Sure?
15 – Green – (-) Door Input – Not Sure ?
17 – Pink –(-)200mA Ignition 1 Output – Not Sure?
18 – Violet - (+) Door Input – Not Sure?
21 – Violet / YELLOW – (-)200mA Starter Output – Not Sure?
rmsmx13 
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Posted: November 23, 2013 at 1:37 PM / IP Logged  
Vehicle also has Factory Keyless entry with no Factory Alarm and No Chip in Key
rmsmx13 
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Posted: November 25, 2013 at 11:23 PM / IP Logged  
Got it all installed and working but am having one issue, every thirty minutes it activates the remote start if it is armed. If it is not armed it does not start. Even when I have it in timer mode to start one time every 24 hours, it still attempts to activate it every thirty minutes.   I read somewhere about it back feeding but that was mainly for it alarming, not remote starting, but I am guessing same principle here. Could it be the second accessory wire (-200mA - 24 pin 23) that is relayed? I think that is where I will start with diagnosing tomorrow unless you guys have a better idea. Below is how it is wired, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Main Harness
H1/1 – Red – 12+ Constant Input- Constant +
H1/2 – Black - Chassis Ground
H1/3 – Brown - Siren Output - Siren +
H1/4 – WHITE/ Brown – Parking Light Isolation Wire- Pin 87a of Onboard Relay – NOT USED
H1/5 – White – Parking Light Output– Brown – Behind Dimmer Switch Panel
H1/6 – Orange – (-) 500mA Ground When Armed Output - NOT USED
Door Lock Harness
1 – Blue – (-)500mA Unlock Output - BLACK/ White - VSM
3 – Green – (-)500mA Lock Output - WHITE/ Red - VSM
Remote Start Harness
H3/1 –Pink– Ignition 1 Input/output -WHITE/ Yellow
H3/2 – RED / White – Fused (30a) Ignition 2/ Flex Relay Input 87– Constant +
H3/3 – Orange – Accessory Output - Gray / YELLOW
H3/4 – Violet – Starter Output (Car Side of Starter) - Green
H3/5 – Green – Starter Input (Key Side of Starter) - Green
H3/6 – Red – Fused (30a) Ignition 1 Input - Constant +
H3/7 – Pink/White – Ignition 2 / Flex Relay Output - RED / Black
H3/8 – Pink/Black – Flex Relay Input 87a Key side If required of Flex Relay -Not Used
H3/9 – RED / Black – Fused (30a) Accessory/Starter Input – Constant +
24 Pin Harness
1 – Pink/White – (-)200mA Ignition 2/Flex Output- NOT USED
2 – Blue/White – (-)200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger Output -Not Used
3 – RED / White – (-)200mA Trunk Release -Not Used
4 – BLACK / YELLOW – (-)200mA Dome Light Status - Blk/Lt Blue-Pass kick panel Follow Below
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant fused @ 5 Amps
-Relay Pin 85 to H2/4 -Relay Pin 30 to Truck BLACK/ Light Blue (+)
5 – Dark Blue – (-)200mA Status Output – NOT USED
6 – WHITE/ Black – (-)200mA Aux 3 Output -Not Used
7 – WHITE/ Violet – (-)200mA Aux 1 Output - Not Used
8 – ORANGE / Black – (-)200mA Aux 4 Output - Not Used
9 – Gray – Hood Pin
10 – Blue – Trunk Pin/Instant Trigger Input -Not Used
11 – WHITE/ Blue – Activation Input - Lt GREEN/ Red - Parking Brake
12 – Violet/White –Tachometer Input - GREEN / WHITE Behind Fuse Panel
13 – BLACK/ White – Neutral Safety/Parking Brake Input – Ground for Automatic Transmission
14 – GREEN/ Black – (-)200mA Factory Alarm Disarm Output - Not Used
15 – Green – (-) Door Input – Door Trigger wires (4) @ VSM
16 – BROWN / Black –(-)200mA Horn Honk Output - Dark Blue
17 – Pink –(-)200mA Ignition 1 Output – Not Used
18 – Violet - (+) Door Input – Not Used
19 – Violet/Black - (-)200mA Aux 2 Output - Not Used
20 – Brown – (+) Brake Shutdown Input - Light Green Brake
21 – Violet / YELLOW – (-)200mA Starter Output – Not Used
22 – Gray/Black – (-) Diesel Wait to start Input - Not Used Use Delay timer
23 – Orange – (-)200mA Accessory Output - Extra ACC2 Relay
 Follow Below
Relay Pin 85 to H2/23 Orange -Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant
-Relay Pin 30 to Acc2 BLUE/LT GREEN @ ignition harness
Relay Pin 87a not used - insulate
24 – GREEN / WHITE - (-)200mA Factory Alarm Arm Output - Not Used
rmsmx13 
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Posted: November 29, 2013 at 5:36 PM / IP Logged  
Anyone?
Ween 
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Posted: November 29, 2013 at 6:24 PM / IP Logged  
why is the WHITE/ blue connected?...should be left open.
rmsmx13 
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Posted: November 29, 2013 at 6:29 PM / IP Logged  
Turbo Timer - when park brake is set, which is why its to the negative wire at e-brake, it lets it run for 3, 6, 9, or 12 mins. Its a diesel.

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