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burnerofhells 
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I finally got my keyless entry to work in my 1993 VW jetta but i noticed that if I lock and unlock the car multiple times in a row (4 or more) the wire that goes to the lock switch part, from the brain, is getting very hot.  Is this normal when the car is locked/unlocked repeatedly? 

Since it is a vacuum lock sytem it uses a 4 second pulse, could this be the reason?  Should i worry about this?
It is the wire from terminal 87a of the extermal relay that is gettin hot.  Check it out below.
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burnerofhells 
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Posted: January 20, 2004 at 10:05 PM / IP Logged  
the wire from the vacuum pump to the door switches i used was the RED / black wire.
OK i just realized something... it doesnt matter how many times i unlock/lock the doors the wire is just getting really hot like power wont stop running through the wire. I disconnected it in fear of fires.  What may the problem be?
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Posted: January 21, 2004 at 1:41 AM / IP Logged  
What wire colors did you use and where in the car did you tap the keyless entry wires to ?
Jeff
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burnerofhells 
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I taped into the BLACK/ red wire right at the vacuum pump.  Sould i have done it at the drivers kick pannel?
why would it make a difference?
I noticed now that my driver door does not lock with the vacuum system anymore and has to be manually locked.  It turns out there is a resistor that got so hot it melted a hole in my drivers door lock. 
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Posted: January 21, 2004 at 2:06 AM / IP Logged  
It's just the the wires at the switch would power a relay that would send a signal to the pump to activate the lock and unlock. According to some of the notes that i have, the Jetta uses a (+) trigger wire to activate the relays for the pump. You didn't have to go straight to the pump according to the wiring information that I have.
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burnerofhells 
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But would going straight to the pump have caused this? 
i am using a positive pulse
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Posted: January 21, 2004 at 2:11 AM / IP Logged  

On the diagram that you have, what is the " DOOR LOCK HARNESS " module suppose to be ? Is this on the car or is this the module that you have installed into the Jetta ?? I ask because all the other systems that I have installed into where I had to go tot he pump, I used 2 relays, not one.

Jeff
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burnerofhells 
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It is my ungo ms2004 alarm.
The diagram i have is what te install manual said to do. 
How would i wire it up with 2 relays?
Keep in mind I must be a positive output.  Also that the wires coming off the DOOR LOCK HARNESS are the wires i have to work with from the alarm.
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Im pretty sure the alarm has one built in relay.  I think this is why all the wires coming off it are labeld like a realy.

Also It was the wire that goes to the door locks that got very hot.

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Posted: January 21, 2004 at 9:30 AM / IP Logged  
Vacuum Type Door Locks
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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