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mcr1115 
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Posted: December 15, 2002 at 11:49 AM / IP Logged  

I have a "Page Guard" vehicle pager system and need some help getting the wiring hooked up. I have a 2002 Chevy 2500 truck that I want to install it in and integrate it with the existing alarm system. Basically all I want it to do is have it page me if one of the doors are opened or it is moved. It came with an impact sensor which is plug and play, so I can probably handle that ok.

I think the wires that I need to connect are:

  1. one of the door trigger inputs, + or – ( door switch or dome light?)
  2. armed output wire (is this the ouput from the truck alarm?)
  3. ignition input wire (does this arm the pager when ignition is off?)
  4. 12 volt battery power wire (self expanatory)
  5. ground wire (self expanatory)

Please correct me if that is not the right connections. I would also like to know where these wires are located in the truck or what terminal since I have very little info. I have included the wiring diagram that came with the pager and two other diagrams that a guy sent me which may or may not be for the 2002 truck. Hope the diagrams are visible since this is my first time doing thisThanks a bunch for any help.

mcr1115 
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Posted: December 15, 2002 at 12:14 PM / IP Logged  

It does not look like the diagrams came thru so below is the site address.  Hope this helps to see them

TIA

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/mcr1010/lst?.dir=/Wiring+diagrams&.view=t

webguy 
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Posted: December 15, 2002 at 12:42 PM / IP Logged  
If your existing alarm already has an impact sensor, don't add your "plug-n-play" sensor. You just asking for more false alarms. But, then again, it also depends on whether or not you want the alarms to be totally independent, where if one fails, the other acts as a backup. you can use both impact sensors, but I wouldn't, but that is just my opinion. I like getting a full night's sleep and keeping the peace with my neighbors.
If you want the pager to react if your alarm triggers, use a relay to connect the siren output of the alarm (usually +12v) to (+) input trigger of the pager. You can also connect, using diodes to isolate switches and sensors, other trigger sources to the same input. There are several different ways to do it and us installers all have our druthers. But, everything depends upon your vehicle and the equipment you have, so I am just giving you general application ideas, you will have to do your homework.
Trigger Inputs: Depends on your vehicle. Some, like Ford, have a positve trigger. Others, like GM, Honda have negative triggers. Refer to the vehicle wiring diagrams at: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/vehicles.asp for your vehicle.
Armed Output wire: Usually, this wire is for a starter interrupt relay, which puts out a ground (or negative) signal when the alarm is armed (Don't qoute me on this as sometimes manufacturers describe things differently)If you already have starter kill with your other alarm, no need to connect it. But you can if you want, but as I stated before, more stuff can mean more problems.(Connect the Orange lead of the Pager to the Starter Interrupt lead of your "host" alarm.)I am having a hard time seeing the details of diagrams 2 and 3.
Ignition lead: Connect this to any +12v source that comes on with the key (or ACC if you kick it in your vehicle to listen to your tunes). When you turn the key off, the alarm goes into its arming mode. Some alarms (if in passive arming mode) will have a delay period (usually 30 to 60 seconds) before they arm, allowing you to exit the vehicle, and with some later model vehicles, allows the illuminated entry lights to shut off.
Don't hesitate to ask, that is what this forum is here for. And I have noticed (as a recently joining member) that there is usually always someone monitoring the board that knows what they are talking about......."Oh God, I need to get a life!"
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mcr1115 
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Posted: December 15, 2002 at 1:33 PM / IP Logged  

Now that you mentioned it, I proabably should keep the pager separate from the existing truck alarm.  That way I can't screw  up the truck alarm if I get something wired in wrong.  I will use the other stand alone wiring diagram that came with the pager .  I has a 30 sec. delay on the arming after the key is removed from the ignition.  Is it ok to use the dome light as a trigger or it is better to use a door sw. as a trigger?  Also, there were no instructions on the best location for the little antenna.  Any recommendations?

Thanks a bunch for the info

webguy 
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For the trigger, connect where it is the easiest to get to. That way if you ever need to troubleshoot...........But either spot will work in a Chevy. The door trigger (if things are still the same as they were a couple of years ago) will be a white wire.
As for the antenna, the higher in the vehicle, the better the range. Although I am not familiar with the late model Chevy Truck (been out of the business for a couple of years now) usually, if you can remove the top of the dash, then lay the antenna across, you should get some decent range. Mounting the antenna close to metal (like the windsheild pillar) will inhibit the signal strength. Also remember that your pager's transmission range will governed by where the vehicle is parked. And, since it does transmit an AM signal, you are subject to all the problems with AM reception. Don't expect to get a range of 1 mile. In most of my experiences, 1/4 of a mile was the average. If you are inside a building, placing the receiver next to a window, or telephone will help a little.
Good Luck!
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mcr1115 
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Posted: December 15, 2002 at 2:04 PM / IP Logged  

I plan on trying to install it tomorrow.

Thanks again for all your help.


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