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lambert 
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Posted: April 23, 2012 at 12:34 AM / IP Logged  
I'm trying to design a custom sequential LED system for my 2000 Pontiac Firebird;Trans Am. It will function similar to this, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9mgulVWSA0&feature=related
But the tail lights will look like this, custome sequential tail light. -- posted image.
I have no idea where to begin building the system to operate the lights..?
oldspark 
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Posted: April 23, 2012 at 1:19 AM / IP Logged  
If you want a simple "bar across" display with 9 bars, that is relatively easy by using a CD4017 "one of ten" output counter that switches in an extra resistor to increase the current through each group/band of LED strings.
IE, each group is switched on normally with a transistor that allows limited current thru the LEDs (for 1/2 or 1/4 brightness etc). Individual 4017 outputs (except output 0) ground an extra resistor to relevant transistor to allow full LED current thru.
More bands can be added by cascading more 4017s.
Anything more than that requires programmable stuff.
It looks like a PIC else CPU was used in the youtube.
Good luck!
lambert 
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Posted: April 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the reply, i want to basically fill each honey comb of the tail light with a LED
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I would start a project like this by building the LED boards first and getting them working to your satisfaction. I would make each vertical strip it's own zone controllable by a (-) pulse. Once you get that part done then you can look in to automating them. The best solution would be to use PWM to control the brightness. You could then dim them for parking lights or full bright them for stop and turn and you would have control over each vertical segment. If it were me, I would most likely have one central processor and a data bus out to individual processors for each segment. The main processor would control all the logic for turns, parks, and brakes, and send the desired brightness to each segment. The local chip would be responsible for the PWM.
Another advantage PWM gives you is the ability to easily change the brightness without having to change resistors.
Your biggest hurdle, though, will be getting DOT approval to use these legally on the street!
Kevin Pierson
lambert 
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Posted: April 24, 2012 at 2:12 PM / IP Logged  
Wow, this seems a little over my head.. What kind of LED strips can you recommend to use?
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Posted: April 24, 2012 at 2:22 PM / IP Logged  
You don't use strips, you would use LEDs on a custom made circuit board so that all the spacing is perfect. You could find LEDs at a place like digikey.com or mouser.com. You can get free PCB layout software (like FreePCB) and have prototype boards made fairly inexpensively.
Kevin Pierson
lambert 
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I like the idea of custom made board so that the spacing is perfect.. is that something i can find @ mouser.com?
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No. Custom means custom. You would have to design it yourself and have it made by a PCB shop. PCB123.com or 4pcb.com or some place like that.
Kevin Pierson
lambert 
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Great, thanks alot for the info. At least now i have a direction.
lambert 
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To be seen better through a red lens, would i go with red LED's or white ones?
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