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muaiad97 
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Posted: December 16, 2003 at 8:53 PM / IP Logged  

hello all

i have grand prix  95  i installd the remote starter  with bypass moduel # 791.

it,s  working good  but i have problem the car is not  runing with the key but its working with the remot starter. please  anyone can help me with that .

ck auto 
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Posted: December 16, 2003 at 9:04 PM / IP Logged  

hi make sure you have power on all ign wires when key is in ign maybe you pulled wire out of plug or blew fuse

good luck
kirk
muaiad97 
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Posted: December 16, 2003 at 9:18 PM / IP Logged  

thank you

i cheked every wire they are ok but i mean mybe its the security.

because ther is no crank with the key but the car working with remot starter

ck auto 
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Posted: December 16, 2003 at 9:39 PM / IP Logged  

did you maybe hook up your bypass wrong try taking bypass out and see if it starts

good luck
kirk
chriswallace187 
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Posted: December 16, 2003 at 9:47 PM / IP Logged  
Check how you hooked up the VATS wires. I've never done a 791, but I assume in this hookup you had to cut one of the two VATS wires, and hook the wires from the bypass module up as such - one wire gets spliced into the uncut VATS wire, one goes to the key side of the cut wire, and one goes to the PCM side. If the key side has the incorrect or no wire hooked up to it, it would cause the problem that you're having.
muaiad97 
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Posted: December 16, 2003 at 10:20 PM / IP Logged  

thank you all

i took out the remot starter of the car to see the car will work.but still dosnt work with the key.befor i install the remot starter the car was working with the key.but now is not only with remot starter working.

muaiad97 
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Posted: December 17, 2003 at 4:25 PM / IP Logged  

grand prix  95  please i need  help.help

before i install  remot starter the car was working very good.

after i installd remot starter the car still working good but only with the remot starter. with the key ther is no crank all ligths comes on and the dash too but no crank. the starter is bulldog and the bypass moduel is 791.

please help 

sparkie 
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Posted: December 17, 2003 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged  
The problem you describe is likely caused by the way the bypass is hooked up. For a better and easier method, measure the resistance of the resistor in the body of your key with a meter. Measure from one side of the key to the other. Get a resistor of this value and a relay. Wire the relay as follows:
Pin # 85 to the ground out when running of the remote starter.
Pin # 86 to ignition (pink in the car's ignition harness)
Pin # 87a to the cut side of the VATS wire (key side) - This is one of the two small white wires sheathed in the orange or black wrap.
Pin # 30 to the other side of the cut VATS wire
Pin # 87 to the resistor and then to the uncut VATS wire.
With this set up you don't need your bypass and the integrity of the VATS system stays intact. The relay and resistor should be available at most electrical supply stores or stereo shops.
sparky
muaiad97 
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Posted: December 17, 2003 at 8:07 PM / IP Logged  
Thank  you for ur help. but the problem is i took out the remot starter of the car to see the car will start but still ther is no crank and i put back all the wires like befor i  install the remot starter.with the key it dosnt work.
muaiad97 
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Posted: January 16, 2004 at 7:42 PM / IP Logged  

hi all  i am trying to bypass the securety in grand prix the mesurment in the key says 9.53 kom.i cant find that valu can i use closer to that number

thanx for help 

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