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97' Grand Am passlock 1 nightmare


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proinstall 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 5:35 PM / IP Logged  

I had this resistance within 0.5% of the passlock 1 resistance and the damn thing wouldnt start.. it was 0.5% under so I tried another chain of 3 resistors and got 0.5% over (if memory serves me correct it was 796 ohms, my first try was 793, my second was 799, I got it to start twice.. like 1/10 times...

Is there something special with these cars? I mean I was pretty damn close to the actual resistance and there was just no dice... I finally had to give up and pull it out and tell the customer sorry, its starter proof..  Most of the passlock cars i do are passlock 2.. that was the first 1 that I did this season... maybe out of 100 strs? (i work part time and go to college full time) anywho, i havnt had a problem with any other ones.. not this much of a problem...

kgerry 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 5:47 PM / IP Logged  
why not save yourself a ton of grief and just use a learning module....  my god man,  time is money.....
Kevin Gerry
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Classic Car Audio
since 1979
proinstall 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 6:28 PM / IP Logged  
Don't get me wrong, I worked at CC a few years back and they make it a cake job.. but as for competing with the prices around here  ($99 installed) its hard to use modules and meet the lowest prices... CC does NOT compete with the cheap starters around here...
JiggaFan 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 6:40 PM / IP Logged  
I tried to use the Omega PASS23 module today. unit blinked 4 times as soon as you started the car with the key. but when i went ot remote start, it wouldn't work.
so i cut the yellow wire, measured a 1250 Ohm resistor when key was in the on position, and slapped a VATS-style relay on it with an 1130 Ohm resistor.
as for the self-learning modules saving time in money, it didn't save me a damn thing...costed me a couple of hours trying to figure out what i was doing wrong with the PASS23 module.
PASSLOCK II - '03 Chevy Blazer
kgerry 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 7:37 PM / IP Logged  

did you remember to change the jumper from programming mode to operation mode ??

they always work fine for me.......

Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
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Classic Car Audio
since 1979
biker8018 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 7:54 PM / IP Logged  
passloc 1........bulb test wire.555l from dei and it's done.
nurseman 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 10:32 PM / IP Logged  
Sorry Guys... I'm not trying to hijack the post but I am having trouble withy the same car. This is my forst install. Putting in a ProStart CT3300. It is a remote start keyless entry. Used the bulldog 791 and all is well after a few hours. It starts well. The problem is that I can't get the keyless entry to work. Ny suggestions?
Craig3708 
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Posted: December 23, 2004 at 11:24 PM / IP Logged  

Nurseman, you do know that you have to change the polrity for this car, it has +12volt locks, and the r/s has - output for locks.........

        Craig

kgerry 
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Posted: December 24, 2004 at 12:33 PM / IP Logged  
use 2 relays and convert - to +.... very simple....  or go out and buy a polarity inverter... we sell them for about 10 bucks
Kevin Gerry
Certified Electronics Technician
MECP First Class Installer
Owner/Installer
Classic Car Audio
since 1979

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