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Blacktj

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Posted: April 19, 2005 at 4:51 PM / IP Logged

Hello folks, it's the annoying noob again :)

I have a Clifford Concept 600 Alarm, and I read in the wiring specs that there is a Yellow Accessory (-) wire that I can use for air horns. I'm assuming I can use this for my piezo as well (programmable Constant/Pulsed), but I have absolutely no idea how to take that one (-) Yellow wire and plug it into the two + and - wires on my piezo siren.

My best guess is using a relay, but from what I see on this website, those are used to convert one type of trigger into the opposite type of output: https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page1.asp

Any type of help would be greatly appreciated.

God bless,

Tony.

mo12v

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Posted: April 19, 2005 at 7:06 PM / IP Logged

U got it.................

Ground Negative side of Piezo:

1 SPDT Relay:

PIN 87 = Positive Wire to Piezo

PIN 30 = 12 Volt Positive Constant

PIN 86 = 12 Volt Positive Constant

PIN 85 = Negative (Yellow ) wire from Alarm

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Blacktj

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 1:00 AM / IP Logged

Hello MO,

Thanks for your reply. Not sure I get it though Adding piezo to alarm -- posted image.

Where do I connect pins 30 & 86? The diagram on this page says 12V+ Fused:

https://www.the12volt.com/relays/page1.asp

I just have no idea what to do with that wire!

Thanks,

Tony.

Blacktj

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 1:09 AM / IP Logged

Here's what I get so far...

85: Plug the (-) cable from the alarm

87: Plug into the (+) wire of the Piezo

Connect the (-) wire of the Piezo somewhere on the body for ground.

Do I even need pins 30 & 86? If so, connect them together as the diagram shows, and plug them where?

Cheers,

Tony.

mo12v

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 8:35 AM / IP Logged

PIN 30 & PIN 86 go to a 12 Volt Positive CONSTANT Source in your Vehicle. Such as the Constant source your Alarm is hooked to or a battery lead

Be sure & fuse the lead

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Blacktj

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:24 AM / IP Logged

Ah! Thank you so much MO!

Any way to tell where and what color the 12 Volt ignition wire is on 2004 Wrangler TJ?

thepencil

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:38 AM / IP Logged

DARK BLUE + IGNITION

DIRECTWIRE™ WIRING INFORMATION - JEEP / WRANGLER / 2004 / Remote Start

12volts pink/black (30A), red (20A) + ignition harness

Starter yellow + ignition harness

Second Starter N/A

Ignition dk. blue + ignition harness

Second Ignition N/A

Third Ignition N/A

Accessory BLACK/ orange + ignition harness

Second Accessory BLACK/ dk. green and WHITE/ pink + ignition harness

Notes: Not required for remote start.

Keysense lt. blue - ignition harness

Power Lock N/A

Power Unlock N/A

Lock Motor N/A

Unlock Motor N/A

Parking Lights+ BLACK / YELLOW + headlight switch

Parking Lights- N/A

Hazards same as turn signal wires

Turn Signal(L) gray (F), dk. GREEN/ red (R) + turn signal switch

Turn Signal(R) tan (F), BROWN / red (R) + turn signal switch

Reverse Light PURPLE / black + driver kick, gray 40 pin plug

Door Trigger tan (D), tan / YELLOW (P) - driver kick, gray 40 pin plug

Notes: Use both wires and diode isolate each.

Dome Supervision yellow - driver kick, gray 40 pin plug

Trunk/Hatch Pin N/A

Hood Pin N/A

Trunk/Hatch Release N/A

Power Sliding Door N/A

Factory Alarm Arm N/A

Factory Alarm Disarm N/A

Disarm No Unlock N/A

Tachometer NOT dk grn/lt grn, dk grn/org ac ignition coil or any fuel injector

Wait to start N/A

Brake Wire WHITE/ tan + brake pedal switch

Parking Brake gray/black - parking brake switch

Horn Trigger RED / yellow - horn switch

Memory Seat 1 N/A

Memory Seat 2 N/A

Memory Seat 3 N/A

Immobilizer Bypass Module: Required: Yes Type: Sentry Key Part #: 555C, 556U, or 555U

Notes: Only vehicles with gray keys have the immobilizer.

This wiring information is being provided free of charge on an "as is" basis, without any representation or warranty. It is your responsibility to verify any circuit before interfacing with it using a digital multimeter.

Directed electronics, Inc. assumes no responsibility with regards to the accuracy or currency of this information. Proper installation in every case is and remains the responsibility of the installer. DEI assumes no liability or responsibility resulting from improper installation, even in reliance upon this information.

Be careful whose advice you buy, but be patient with those who supply it. Adding piezo to alarm -- posted image.

Blacktj

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:52 AM / IP Logged

Sweet! Thank you pencil!

I was actually looking for the 12volts ignition wire. Can I just choose between the pink/black and red wires?

thepencil

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 10:59 AM / IP Logged

pink/black (30A), red (20A)

Use the pink/black. 30Amp

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Blacktj

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Posted: April 20, 2005 at 12:14 PM / IP Logged

Cool - thanks a lot.

One more question though - just want to make sure I don't blow anything up :)

I'll still need to fuse the cable coming from (12volt+ Fused) 30&86 that will plug into the pink/black cable, correct?

That should be enough of the noob for a while :)

Tony.

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