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bill64 
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hello new guy here with a couple queations. i am replacing the ford/code alarm r/s on my 08 f250 with a code srt9000 alarm r/s. the older alarm r/s was in one of my other vehicles and had it put into the 08 ford. i decided to get a two way paging alarm  and wanted to do the install myself  so i removed the old one and to my surprise the brake light input  splice at the brake switch  was all but hanging on (brake light wire cut most of the way through and connection not soldered )  it was a fun job repairing that , probably the hardest connection to get to. btw i soldered that connection, its secure for now  but that wiring allways moves and wondering if that joint will eventually crack  because of movement?? also the rest of the splices into the wiring only involve a small (1/8 in.) insulation removal with the copper parted in the middle, accessory wire fed through and wrapped around, no solder,no silicone sealer, just tape. i would like to remove 1/4 to 3/8 of insulation to leave room for soldering the connections but want to do a neat job. is their a special tool ror removing the insulation or just automatic wire strippers making a few cuts and using a razer knife to slice across and removeng the insulation?? i have the alarm mostly wired in , not powered up yet, the connectiones are for the most part temp. untill i know it all works right.... thanks !    bill 

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Yes there's an electrician's wire stripping tool (that everyone should have), but if you aren't using it for much you might end up choosing the wrong gauge hole to feed the wire into.  It's good if you have a little excess wire to play through.  But quite naturally you can do a complete and neat job with just a clean new razor blade.
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15 dollar autostrippers from nh.  you can solder those connections in seconds.  3m super 33+ stays in place in heat and cold, but its more expensive than other tapes.

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Al the answers are correct, but ref security on the brake wire, a small cable tie around the joint will do the trick. Ref Scotch 33+, $5 per reel here! I use it on the solder joints then tape the loom stogether 2"+ along the junction for stealth and longevity.
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If the insulation is already broken you may simply be able to pull it apart far enough to allow access for soldering.  The easiest tool to do this with would be a pair of wire strippers.
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i use regular wire strippers to break the insulation in two spots and then cut between then with a razor blade. it works well on heavy gauge wire.
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Here are a few links to my favorite (by far) wire stripper. You just place it over the desired wire in the car, squeeze the handle, and it spreads apart the wire's insulation a good 1/2" for you to attach the wire from your alarm.
Even though the stripper does an excellent job of spreading apart the wire's insulation, the insulation might/could sort of "unstretch" and fall back into place over time.
For this reason, I like to poke a hole right through the middle of all the strands of the wire in the car.....you could use your test light probe, a pick tool, whatever is handy.
Then put the wire from your alarm through that hole you made, then wrap it around.....this way it's sort of "tied" in there, and the factory wire's insulation has no way to move back.
Then you can still solder and tape as usual.
I think the stripper is made by Irwin, but the easiest place to find it is at Radio Shack, rebadged under their Kronus name. It's about $18, and has a lifetime warranty.
Here's a link with very good pictures:
http://toolmonger.com/2007/02/22/hands-on-irwins-self-adjusting-wire-stripper/
Here's another link with a picture of the Kronus brand:
http://www.buzzillions.com/dz_685584_radio_shack_kronus_heavy_duty_automatic_reviews
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those stripers are awesome im on my second pair because i broke the spring on the first from over use but it took 3 years   i have the radio shack brand kronus
If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe
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Posted: July 22, 2009 at 5:59 PM / IP Logged  
   hey,  thanks every one for the wiring  tips, i found this web site to be very helpfull...and i might have a couple more questions on my alarm install but so far so good . thanks again ,  bill 

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