2002 crown vic cvpi viper 4806v

I have the Viper 4806v all wired up to a 2002 Crown Vic CVPI. The Viper remote will honk the horn, lock and unlock the doors, blink the parking lights but will not start the car. The Viper unit taps out 7 relay clicks when trying to start the car. What have I done wrong. I have listed the viper and crown vic wiring info below and below that I have listed how I connected the viper8 in Remote Harness to the Crown Vic Ign Switch harness. I have not botherd to list the 6 pin Main Harness or 24 pin Aux/shutdown harness connections. Viper 4806 v Remote Start, 8 pin connector 1 RED / Black     +12 volt constant input 2 Pink/Black     + Flex relay pin 87a 3 Pink/White     + Ign 2/flex relay output 4 Red +12 volt constant input 5 Violet     + Starter Output 6 Orange     + Accessory Output 7 RED / White     +12 volt constant input For Ign 2 and Flex Relay 8 Pink + Ign 1 input/output      Crown Vic Ign Switch Harness B1 Brown      Power (Hot at All Times) I2  Not Used A1 Blk/LT Grn     Power (Hot in Acc or Run) B2 LT Grn     Power (Hot at All Times) A2 Gray / YELLOW     Power (Hot in Run)      B3 LT Grn     Power (Hot at All Times) A3 Gray / YELLOW     Power (Hot in Run)      B4 Yellow     Power (Hot at All Times) STA Wht/Pink     Power (Hot in Start) A4 Pink/Black     Power (Hot in Run)      B5 Brown     Power (Hot at All Times) I1 BROWN / Pink      Power (Hot in run or Start) GND Blk Ground P1  Not Used P2 T/BLK     Grounded at start output My wiring had it as follows Viper  Crown Vic 1   B1 2   Don't know what to do here 3   Don't know what to do here 4   B1 5   STA 6   A2 7   B1 8   I1     I have seen the Bull Dog Wiring sheets. I followed Bull Dogs information as best I could. What have I done wrong. Please help me! Which Viper wires connect to which Crown Vic wires?

I have looked at the ford wiring manual and have come up with the following colors. Viper        Ford RED / Black     Brown and yellow Pink/Black    N/C Pink/White    N/C Red  Brown and Yellow Violet        WHITE/ Pink Orange        BLACK/ green RED / White     Brown and yellow Pink BROWN / Pink

I should of asked if anyone agreed with my last post.

One last thing tonight In the ford wiring manual it looks like the Yellow, Light Green and Brown 12 volt constant wires all come from the same 12 volt power source. Each color is rated at a different amperage. Each color (Yellow, Light Green and Brown) feed different inputs to the ignition switch. It seems to me I could hook up all three Viper 12 volt constant wires one or multiple of the Yellow, Light Green or Brown wires. Where as after the power is feed to the viper unit, and the Viper 4806v remote start sends the proper power signals to the + Start output, Ignition 1 and Accessory output the car should start and run. What do you think?

You are doing well on this project.  The good news is that you won't need a bypass module as the CV P71's don't

have the PATS system.

The standard wire guide sources give slightly different info on the vehicles ignition wires.  It would be best to use a DMM

and determine them yourself.  They all agree that the Brown, Yellow and Light Green wires are +12V constant, the the WHITE/ Pink wire is the Starter wire and the BROWN / Pink wire is Ignition 1.  There will be a Gray / YELLOW, BLACK/ Light Green and Pink/Black that will test as either an Accessory or Ignition wire.  The Viper can directly handle all but one of these wires.  Here is the wiring info from several sources :

Bulldog :

12 VOLT CONSTANT            BROWN (+) and LIGHT GREEN (+) or YELLOW  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    STARTER      WHITE/ PINK (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      IGNITION 1    BROWN / PINK (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    IGNITION 2    PINK/BLACK (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    ACC/HEATER BLOWER 1    GREY / YELLOW (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    ACC/HEATER BLOWER 2    BLACK/ GREEN (+)  @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS 

Audiovox :

 Battery   YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS  Ignition 1         BROWN / PINK  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    Ignition 2         GRAY / YELLOW  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    Ignition 3         PINK/BLACK  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS    Accessory 1    BLACK/ LIGHT GREEN  (+)  SAME WIRES IGN HARNESS    Starter 1          WHITE/ PINK  (+)  IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS

ReadyRemote :

12volts        brown & lt. green     +   ignition harnessStarter         WHITE/ pink   +  ignition harness          Ignition        BROWN / pink   +  ignition harness    Second Ignition        gray / YELLOW   +  ignition harness   Accessory                BLACK/ lt. green   +  ignition harness    Second Accessory     pink/black   +  ignition harness

Actually, there are 4 "power" input wires to your Viper.  Three on the H3 harness and one on the H1 harness.  It is always

a good idea to split them up between any available vehicle supply sources.

Viper 4806v Remote Start, 8 pin connector

H3/1 RED / Black      +12 volt constant input    Brown @ Ignition Switch    H3/2 Pink/Black     + Flex relay pin 87a          not usedH3/3 Pink/White     + Ign 2/flex relay output   Gray / YELLOW @ Ignition Switch    * Program Viper as IGN or ACCH3/4 Red     +12 volt constant input    Yellow @ Ignition SwitchH3/5 Violet + Starter Output   WHITE/ Pink @ Ignition SwitchH3/6 Orange          + Accessory Output          BLACK/ Light Green @ Ignition SwitchH3/7 RED / White     +12 volt constant Flex Relay        Light Green @ Ignition SwitchH3/8 Pink   + Ign 1 input/output           BROWN / Pink @ Ignition Switch* Set Viper Menu 3, Item 8 to either IGN or ACC as determined by previous testing of the Gray / YELLOW wire.

This leaves the Pink/Black wire.   To power this wire, you will need a 30/40 Amp SPDT Relay, in-line fuse holder and a 30

Amp fuse.  Here is the wiring :Relay Pin 85 to Viper (-) 200mA Accessory or (-) 200mA Ignition Output  **Relay Pin 86 and 87 to suitable +12V constant source through 30 Amp fuse ( Yellow, Brown or Light Green )Relay Pin 30 to CV P71 Pink/Black @ ignition switch harnessRelay Pin 87a not used - insulate** Choose the appropriate Pin 85 relay control input depending on your previous test results on the Pink/Black wire.      These relay control wires are (-) thin gauge, not the thick (+) ignition wires found on the H3 harness.

Soldering is fun!

Today I checked the Ignition Switch harness with a DMM and found +12 volts in the following ign switch positions. Viper 4806v Remote Start, 8 pin connector Ford Wire Color      Volt Condition Switch positions Brown+12 volts onstant All Positions Gray / YELLOW        +12 volts   Run & Ignition      Yellow  +12 volts Constant        All Positions WHITE/ Pink +12 volts   Start Black Green        +12 volts   ACC Light Green        +12 volts Constant        All Positions Brown Pink +12 volts   Ign & Run    So I wired the Viper 4806v Remote Start, 8 pin connector as follows H3/1 RED / Black      +12 volt constant input       Brown @ Ignition Switch H3/2 Pink/Black     + Flex relay pin 87a not used H3/3 Pink/White     + Ign 2/flex relay output     Gray / YELLOW @Ignition Switch    * Program Viper as IGN or ACC H3/4 Red +12 volt constant input       Yellow @ Ignition Switch H3/5 Violet        + Starter Output  WHITE/ Pink @ Ignition Switch H3/6 Orange        + Accessory Output       BLACK/ Light Green @ Ignition Switch H3/7 RED / White     +12 volt constant Flex Relay   Light Green @ Ignition Switch H3/8 Pink + Ign 1 input/output  BROWN / Pink @ Ignition Switch Yes I have the (4th +12 volt constant) main 6 pin connector Red wire wired to +12 volts constant. You indicate Viper H3/3 Pink/White +ign2/flex relay output should go to the ford Gray / YELLOW @ ignition switch and then I should program Menu 3 Item 8 to IGN or ACC. My DMM measurements indicate it should be programmed as Ign. I measured +12 volts when the key is in the Run and Ign positions. Why do I need to install a relay? To the best of my knowledge from honks it is programmed that way. When I attempt to Remote start the car the parking lights flash 7 times. Viper manual indicates this is caused by Viper Menu 3 Item 1 Manual Transmission mode is enabled and not initialzed. So I tried programming Menu 3 Item 1 to option 2 (Automatic). Once again to the best of my knowledge it is programmed that way. Today I ordered a DEI bitwritter and should have it tomorrow to confirm the menu items are programmed properly.

In your testing did you find a Pink/Black wire in the ignition harness?  All of the wiring guides list one.  If it is there and you wish to power it during a remote start, you would need the extra relay as mentioned above.

I my mind, I use the same criteria as the R/S system in determining an Ignition wire from an Accessory wire.  Simply put, an Accessory wire will drop to 0 Volts during cranking ( while the Starter wire is outputting +12V ).

It can be difficult to change programming options using the remotes.  A BitWriter will same you time and plenty of aggravation.

Soldering is fun!

Thanks for the help. I have the remote start working now after adding the relay and realizing the pink white wire everyone was talking about was the pink/white wire in the 24 pin harness not the one in the 8 pin harness. I have another question about the viper operation. Since I'm not in the car the doors are locked. When I remote start the car the viper un-locks the doors, then starts the car and then re-locks the doors. Why is this happening. Do I need to change a menu item setting?

I have installed a Viper 4806v into a 2002 Ford Crown Vic CVPI (Police) car. I used a 451m door lock relay module. The remote locks the doors, un-locks the doors and starts the car. I have gotten to trunk yet. My problem is this: When I leave the car I lock the doors. WHen I press the Remote start button to start the car, the Viper un-locks the locked doors. THen the car starts. Next the Viper locks the doors. Why is this happening? Is there a Menu Item that need to be programmed?