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Posted: November 05, 2014 at 4:46 AM / IP Logged  
Good day
Just before falling into action,can I cut out my existing alarm siren and link up an aftermarket horn if I need more noise? The alarm siren output sends a negative signal to the siren.just correct me if I'm wrong.86 Pos,85 neg output of alarm,87 12V supply fused,30 12V to horn.will this work or will the ouput be too low to engergize the coil of the relay?
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howie ll 
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Posted: November 05, 2014 at 2:33 PM / IP Logged  
Should work out fine. Diode (1N4004) across 85 and 86, band to 86 to protect the alarm.
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Posted: November 05, 2014 at 9:38 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks howie.do you perhaps have a diagram of the diode connection?
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Posted: November 06, 2014 at 12:23 AM / IP Logged  
No I described it, look in the relay section.
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Posted: November 06, 2014 at 2:56 AM / IP Logged  
Hi howie,please view my roughly drawing.this is if I use the existing car horn.please guide if this is correct.alarm siren replacment -- posted image.
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Copper - Posts: 244
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Posted: November 06, 2014 at 1:13 PM / IP Logged  
alarm siren replacment -- posted image.
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Posted: November 06, 2014 at 3:39 PM / IP Logged  
Look at the bottom diagram on this page:-
https://www.the12volt.com/doorlocks/page3.asp#4w
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Posted: November 06, 2014 at 5:35 PM / IP Logged  

There are some photo's of the coil quenching diode addition to a relay harness in this R/S Pictorial :

https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133810

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Posted: November 06, 2014 at 6:09 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks kreg and howie.I understand now.anode goes to negative coil and cathode to positive coil.
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Posted: November 07, 2014 at 2:44 AM / IP Logged  
You do of course realise KM that we probably use the same source and parts for our relay set-ups? Even down to the shrinkie over the diode?
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