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MikeHusain 
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Posted: January 13, 2005 at 1:07 AM / IP Logged  
I was wondering if you could use t-taps for remote starters, i use them for door locks and parking lights, dome light, but how bout the wires in the ignition harness, like the starter, accessory, ignition.... should u just splice into them tie the wires around them and then solder them? that takes alot of time, i was wondering if i could get away using t-taps.  I am assuming that t-taps are more for low current connections. Thanks..
profuse007 
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i try to stay away from t-taps. i use it sometime when i cant get my hand somewhere in a tight space, other than that i just manually splice it through.
definitely stay away form the IGN harness or any high current line. there not a proper t-taps size that doesnt cut the strands.
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I won't use a T-tap on anything....Its sad to have to troubleshoot, only to find a failed tap.

I keep some on hand only for small guage wires, like profuse007 said, for a REALLY tight space

thepencil 
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Use t-taps as your only last resource. Don't make it a habit of it. You will sleep better at night.   
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true, true, true.... and for you stubborn buggers who insist they're ok for low current applications i can only say most of the intermittent RS connections i have to deal with here ( parking lights, locks, brake shutdown, etc ) are from people/dealers who used those crappy T tap connectors..... if you care about the quality and integrity of your installs, solder your connections.....
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brcidd 
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The first time I saw these taps- I saw that the alarm installer use two of them- so even the installer know they are NO good- so he doubles his chances by putting two on the same lines............
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CutDog504 
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I use t-taps but not in all situations. Definitely not for remote start. I usually use them for door triggers, parking lights, and some doorlocks (not if I have to use relays). And I'll only use them if the wire is at least 18 guage. I wont use them if the wires are very thin (as with most japanese cars) because they dont bite into the wire enough and give you a bad connection. So I avoid them in those situations. I never have any comebacks becuase I use good judgement on when and how to use them. Another thing I use is the brown scotchlocks. I use them to tap into a hot wire in the ign harness to get a constant for alarms. I have NEVER had any problems with the scotchlocks. But then again, they are double piercing, and you have to squeeze hard as hell to get them all the way closed. And when they're closed, believe me, they aint coming loose from anything short of much prying with a screwdriver.
lions-freak 
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t-taps suck,,,,,I won't use them for anything like was previously stated they are a touble-shooting nightmare just solder or if you are in a hurry use the "stripe, poke, wrap and tape method".....I have never had any problems with it.  I have just started useing it this remote start season,  about 50 or so and no problems in the last two months.......
Ravendarat 
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I cant stand the damn things. I just had to remove a comand start that had been installed using them and trying to pry those damn things off sucked,  and then I had to repair all the wiring that had been cut into by these things. I cant stand em and have never used them. I have also never ran into a place where I couldnt get in and solder, and I am like 6' 2 and 280 pounds so I cant see how people can say they cant get into these places.
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You should NEVER use T-Taps on high current wire. If you can't get in somewhere to solder a door trigger a T-Tap is ok but use them as a last resort. Soldering is permanent.

Jeff
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