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blorkowski 
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Posted: November 27, 2006 at 1:01 PM / IP Logged  

several problems:

1. The 591xv will not recognize the remote.  The package the remote came in had a note in it that the remote was not synced to the unit.  The learn routine in the installation guide is not helpfull.  How do I get the remote to talk to the unit?

2.  Is there a way to reset the unit in case I have unintentionally programmed something wrong?

3.  There is a WHITE/ blue wire in H1/3 that is labled (-) remote start activation input.  The directions do not indicate where to connect this wire.  Page 14 of the instructions shows a momentary contact switch to ground but it doesn't make sense and there is no switch in the box.  Where does this wire go?

4.  I cannot get the 457gw interface to program the way it is described in the instructions.  It will not learn the passlock II so it can be bypassed.  It does control all 4 door locks for the automatic lock/unlock when the ignition is turned on or off.

Bill Lorkowski
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In reading other postings I noticed that several people were having the same issue with the Passlock II wiring to the 457gw unit.  Several replies said that the unit interfaces with the vehicle data buss and does not connect to the yellow wire at the key.  They also suggested putting a diode in the ground to the unit.  I did those two things and then the 457 unit did program as described in the installation instructions and the 591xv unit also came to life and recognized the remote.  The system is now working great.

I still would like to know about the WHITE/ blue wire in the H1/3 plug.  The system is working now and this wire is not connected but I would still like to know what it is supposed to do and if it should be connected.

Bill Lorkowski
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Posted: November 27, 2006 at 6:22 PM / IP Logged  
that is if you have it hooked to the factory remote to start the car. not needed in your case. you could put a momentary push button switch to it and ground the other half and then hide the button in the truck to start it without the remote or key.
blorkowski 
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I have a Viper 591XV with a DEI 457GW security/lock module on an 04 GMC Sierra 4 door.  2500HD crew cab.

The security light on the dash comes on steady when I start the truck with the key.  It stays on whenever the key is on until I start the truck with the remote start.  When I start with the remote, turn the key and hit the brake to disengage the remote the light does not come on.

I connected a code reader to the truck and it indicated that there are no codes stored in the computer.

Anyone know how to correct this problem?

Bill Lorkowski
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How did you wire up the 457GW ? Need wire pinouts to each connection. Chances are you have the module hooked up wrong .
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blorkowski 
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Sorry about all the MS Word table formatting above, here is what I was trying to say.

DEI 457GW Connections

Black  (chassis ground)  to truck chassis thru diode.

Red  (12 volts power input) to constant 12v in ignition harness.

Grey/Black  (- input, dome light)  to BLACK/ White on H1 plug of Viper 591XV remote start (- dome light output)

RED / White (- trunk input)  not connected.

BROWN / White (- panic input) not connected.

Light green (- input arm & lock) to Green on H4 plug of Viper 591 XV remote start (- lock)

Blue (- input disarm & unlock) to Blue on H4 plug of Viper 591XV remote start (- unlock)

Violet (output data) to Violet on vehicle diagnostic plug.

Blue/White (- input ground when running) to Blue on auxiliary harness of Viper 591XV remote start (- status output)

Green (- output door trigger for alarm) not connected.

Ignition plug for passlock III wires is not connected.

Bill Lorkowski
mauri197 
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Grey/Black (- input, dome light) to BLACK/ White on H1 plug of Viper 591XV remote start (- dome light output)
thats the wrong connecting the gray black is suppose to see the possitive door trigger or ignition for pk3 but in youre case hook it up to youre possitive domelight output under the dash and then the green wire connects to the green wire on youre viper
blorkowski 
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DEI Viper 591XV Remote Start Connections

H1 orange (ground when armed output) is not connected

H1 white (+/- parking light output) to brown (+ parking light  wire) in driver kick panel of truck

H1 WHITE/ blue (- activation input) is not connected

H1 BLACK/ white (- dome light output) to grey/black (- dome light input) of DEI 457GW unit

H1 green not used

H1 blue (- 2nd door lock output) is not connected

H1 violet not used

H1 black (ground input) to truck chassis thru diode

H1 brown (- horn honk output) is not connected

H1 red (12 volts constant input) to constant 12v in truck ignition harness

H1 RED / white (- channel 2 output) is not connected

H2 GREEN/ black (- factory alarm disarm) is not connected

H2 grey/black (- wait to start input) is not connected

H2 GREEN / WHITE (- factory alarm rearm) is not connected

H2 violet/black (- channel 4 output) is not connected

H3 BLACK/ white (neutral safety input) thru switch to truck chassis thru diode

H3 violet/white (tachometer input) to white on truck PCM plug under hood

H3 brown (+ brake shutdown input) to white at brake light switch on brake pedal

H3 grey (- hood pin shutdown input) to hood pin switch under hood

H3 blue/white (- 2nd status/defogger) is not connected

H4 green (- lock or + unlock output) to light green (- lock input) on DEI 457GW unit

H4 blue (- unlock or + lock output) to blue (- unlock input) on DEI 457GW unit

relay unit purple (starter side of starter wire) to starter side of yellow (ignition) in truck ignition harness

relay unit green (key side of starter wire) to key side of yelow (ignition) in truck ignition harness

relay unit red (12 volt input) to red or RED / white (constant 12 volt) in truck ignition harness

relay unit orange (accessory output) to orange (accessory) in truck ignition harness

relay unit  pink/white (2nd ignition output) to white (ignition #2) in truck ignition harness

relay unit RED / white (12 volt constant) is jumpered to constant red in plug

relay unit pink (ignition output) to pink (ignition) in truck igniton harness

relay unit red (12 volt input) to red or RED / white (constant 12 volt) in truck ignition harness

Aux harness blue (- status output) to blue/white (- input ground when running) on DEI 457GW unit

Aux harness orange (- 2nd accessory output) is not connected

Aux harness purple (- starter output) is not connected

Aux harness pink (- 3rd ignition output) is not connected

Bill Lorkowski
blorkowski 
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Posted: December 06, 2006 at 4:43 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks mauri197, the Viper 591xv is a door locks/remote start version of the 791xv.  It does not have an associated alarm system so the grey/black and the green wires on the DEI 457GW aren't needed.

Thanks to truckman for your september 5, 2006 posting concerning the security light problem.  I took the negative battery terminal off and went to lunch.  When I came back and connected the battery the system re-booted and the security light reset.  No light on with either remote start of key start anymore.

Bill Lorkowski

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