2005 nissan pathfinder viper 5704

My first remote start install. I have done a lot of research and found specific wiring diagrams for the 2005 Nissan Pathfinder. However, the Viper 5704 installation instructions are fairly vague. I was wondering if anyone had specific information for this install showing me exactly which wires on the remote start go to the wires on the vehicle... and which ones on the remote start are not needed. Also.. I purchased an XPressKit XK02, which is an immobilizer module specifically for my vehicle. I realize I am asking for a lot.. but can anyone tell me exactly what wires I will be hooking up? Thanks in Advance!

Wow, I could write a book on this one.  OK, I will try to cover the major areas.

First, the Viper 5704.  Nice system, good choice.  That's the good news.  The not so good news. 

Viper is manufactured by DEI.  DEI categorizes Viper as a brand for their authorized, professionally trained 12V dealers.

They will not support DIYers and will not honor a warranty on a DIY installed system.  Additionally they restrict full installguides to their authorized dealers, so there will be only a brief 2 page guide in the 5704's box.  However, you should be ableto get a 570x install guide in the Downloads section.

Viper 5704 is a full featured, very robust system.  The 5704 install guide does not go into great detail about wire function

and programming features.  The older 5701 guides are slightly better in this respect.  Either way, the DEI documents arenot written for the DIYer, they are written for DEI trained dealers, using industry and manufacturer specific terms.  Additionallythere are several vague areas and "gotcha's" with the 570x units that almost all DIYers fall victim to.  This info has beenasked and answered many times on this forum and easily found with a search.   ( Transmission Mode, Neutral Safety Switchand Engine Checking Mode )

Second, the bypass module.  This is another area where this is a lot to know and learn.  It is another area where the

bypass module manufactures cater to the 12V professional and will shun the DIYer.  The XpressKit XK02 is a nice modulebut it will only handle the "Convenience" features on your Pathfinder, IF it is flashed with the NISSDL V3.02 firmware.  TheXK02 bypass module can be flashed with many different firmwares that allow it to support a wide variety or vehicles.  Ifyour XK02 has a white label on it that is marked NISSDL, then that is the firmware that was flashed on it at the factory andyou are all set.  If not, hopefully the seller re-flashed it to the correct NISSDL firmware for you ( or you have the XKLoader2cable to flash it yourself ).  Either way this module will not perform the ignition immobilizer transponder bypass functionneeded for the remote start to work.  It only handles the door locks and alarm.  If your Pathfinder has a chipped transponder key, you will need another bypass module to handle this.  If you haven't already purchased the XK02, I would suggest a DLPK, for several reasons.  The DLPK will do everything the XK02 w/NISSDL will do plus the transponder bypass plus supply door, hatch and hood status signals and it comes pre-loaded and ready to go right out of the box.  Here is a link to the DLPK's install guide :  http://www.xpresskit.com/DocumentDownload.aspx?documentid=5665&productid=122&firmwareid=1632

Bottom line - there is a big learning curve involved.  You have chosen to do a self install, you will be testing and locating

the correct wires in the Pathfinder to make the necessary connections.  You will be soldering the wires, programmingthe Viper and bypass module.  Most importantly, you or your family members will be driving this vehicle for years to come.

If you are up to the challenge, here is a list of sources for the wiring in your vehicle :

Here is a link to Bulldog Security :  http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.aspHere is a link to Ready Remote :  http://www.readyremote.com/main.aspHere is a link to AudioVox :  http://techservices.audiovox.com/AccessRequest.aspx    Sign-up & info is free.

Download all available sources and compile it into a working list for your install.

Here is a link to the 5704 install guide :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1204

Here is a link to an older, but more detailed 5701 install guide : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=710

Please note that the wiring connectors have been changed but the wire names / descriptions ( and usually colors ) remain the same.  Read, learn and understand the system.  Ask questions on the vague areas.

Finally, make up with a list of Viper to Pathfinder or bypass and bypass to Pathfinder.  Post that for member review and

advice.  Here is a 5704 harness list to save you some typing...

Viper 5704

H1/1 RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT          

H1/2 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND     H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN 0UTPUT H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN PARKING LIGHT 87A       H1/5 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT H1/6 ORANGE (-) 500mA GR0UND WHEN ARMED 0UTPUT    

H2/1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY  

H2/2 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT        H2/3 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOG      H2/4 GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM   H2/5 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT H2/6 GREEN (-) D00R TRIGGER INPUT (N/C 0R N/0)     H2/7 BLACK / YELLOW (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPER H2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT H2/9 DARK BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT    H2/10 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITI0N 1 OUTPUT         H2/11 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT H2/12 VIOLET (+) D00R TRIGGER INPUT H2/13 WHITE/ VlOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT   H2/14 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT   H2/15 ORANGE / BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT          H2/16 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTD0WN INPUT   H2/17 GREY (-) H00D PIN INPUT (N/C 0R N/0)    H2/18 VIOLET / YELLOW (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT H2/19 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN / INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/O) H2/20 GREY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT T0 START INPUT   H2/21 WHITE'/BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER INPUT   H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT           H2/23 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT       H2/24 GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT    

1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT         

2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED IGNITION 2        3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT    4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)           5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)   6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT   7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY 8 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A     9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT       

Door Lock

1  Blue  (-) 500 mA Unlock2  Green  (-) 500mA Lock 

Soldering is fun!

Wow! Very useful information! Thank You! I was very misdirected from the company I purchased the XK02 from. They informed me it would work as an immobilizer. I just ordered the DLPK you recommended and should have it by Monday. I will start going over the reference material you provided and I'm sure I will have questions! One question I know of right now... my vehicle has a 2nd starter wire. I have seen several recommended ways of wiring this with a relay... some with a diode, some without, how do you recommend I wire the 2nd starter wire in my application? Thanks Again!

I had originally found this diagram as one method of wiring the 2nd starter wire. Is this a reliable method?

Yes that method will work, however, as mentioned previously, the Viper has low current (-) outputs for this exact situation. 

OK, if you don't want to use the Vipers Flex relay for the Pathfinders Starter2 output, here is the way I would do it with the Viper.

1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT           Pathfinder IGN1

2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED FLEX RELAY INPUT       +12V Constant3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT     Pathfinder ACC14 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)             Pathfinder Starter15 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)                  Pathfinder Starter16 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT     +12V Constant7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT           Pathfinder ACC2   ***Program Menu 3, Item 8 to Option 28 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A of FLEX RELAY        Not Used9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT                +12V Constant10 N/C N/C

Extra SPDT Relay for Starter2 :

Relay Pin 85 to Viper Violet (-) 200mA Starter OutputRelay Pins 86 and 87 to +12V constant thru 20 Amp fuseRelay Pin 30 to Pathfinder Starter2Relay Pin 87a       not used - insulate

Soldering is fun!

I am getting ready to go through the Viper 5704 and DLPK wires one by one and label where they will be wired into the Pathfinder. Before I do, I am still weighing out all the options for wiring the Pathfinder's Starter2 wire. Being a rookie at this... I'm not sure I fully understand the first recommendation you made "Personally, I would use the Viper 5704's Pink/White Flex relay output for the all important Starter2 wire and use an external SPDT 30/40 Amp relay for Pathfinders' Accessory2 wire. That way all ignition circuits are powered via an isolated circuit during a remote start. The Viper 5704 makes this fairly easy with it's (-) 200mA Accessory output." Are you suggesting that I use the Pathfinder's ACCESSORY /HEATER BLOWER2(GREEN/ YELLOW) wire as a power source for the Starter2 wire through an external relay triggered by the Viper's (-) 200mA Accessory output? Pathfinder ACCESSORY /HEATER Blower2 to Relay 87 Pathfinder Starter2 to Relay 30 Relay 86 to ground Relay 85 to Viper (-) 200mA Accessory output Correct???   Any diodes or extra fuses anywhere?

No, not at all. Your Pathfinder has one Ignition wire, two Starter wires and two Accessory wires. All should be powered by an isolated R/S source to duplicate a normal key start-up. The Viper can directly support only 4 of those 5 ignition wires. The Viper has one Ignition, one Starter and one Accessory output on the H3 harness. The Viper also has a Flex Relay output, H3/7. The Factory Default setting for this wire is Ignition2. This setting can be changed via Viper Menu 3 programming to either Accessory or Starter type output, depending on the vehicles needs. Your vehicle does not need an Ignition2 connection. It does need a Starter2 and an Accessory2 connection. Being as the Starter2 ignition wire is more important, I chose to use the Flex Relay ( H3/7 Pink/White wire ) for the Pathfinders Starter2 circuit.   That would leave the Accessory2 circuit to an external relay. You have shown a desire to power the Starter2 circuit with an external relay. While that wasn't my first choice, it is an acceptable way to accomplish the install. My 12/20/2013 post at 4:11 PM shows the exact wiring and programming to do this. The relay wiring you posted for Starter2 from Commando Alarms will work but does have one slight concern.   Both this extra relay and the DLPK bypass module need a (-) Ground When Running signal. Fortunately, the Viper 5704 does have two of these outputs. Use the Dark Blue (-) 200mA Status Output for the DLPK and the BLUE/WHITE (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEF0GGER OUTPUT for the Starter2 relay Pin 86 input. And if you read up in the Relay Section, you will see that standard relay protocol has Pin 85 as the (-) and Pin 86 as the (+) coil inputs which Commando Alarms did not follow. My relay wiring avoided this issue by using the Vipers low current (-) output to control the external relay. Anyway, going with your desire to power the Pathfinders Starter2 circuit with an external relay, I provided the H3 and relay wiring for this configuration. Using an external relay for Starter2 means that the Vipers Flex relay can be used for the Pathfinders Accessory2 wire and is shown in that previous post. The Starter2 external Relay wiring is shown using the Vipers low current 200mA (-) Starter Output, not the way the Commando Alarms diagram did it ( although that will also work ).   As shown above the external Starter2 relay gets its' +12V power on Pin 86 and 87 from the Pathfinder. The Green wire at the Pathfinders ignition switch connector is rated at 40 Amps and, in normal use, is capable of supplying all of the vehicles ignition switch wires and can be used as the relays +12V constant power source. My original "preferred" way, using the Vipers Flex Relay for the Starter2 circuit and the external relay for the Accessory2 circuit would look like this : 1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT    Pathfinder IGN1 2 RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED FLEX RELAY INPUT +12V Constant 3 ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT  Pathfinder ACC1 4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE) Pathfinder Starter1 5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)    Pathfinder Starter1 6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT +12V Constant 7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUT        Pathfinder Starter2   ***Program Menu 3, Item 8 to Option 3 8 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A of FLEX RELAY        Not Used 9 RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT +12V Constant 10 N/C N/C Extra SPDT Relay for Accessory2 : Relay Pin 85 to Viper Orange (-) 200mA Accessory Output Relay Pins 86 and 87 to +12V constant thru 20 Amp fuse Relay Pin 30 to Pathfinder Accessory2 Relay Pin 87a       not used - insulate Either way posted will work and power all the necessary ignition wires in the Pathfinder. The choice is yours, you can even substitute the Commando Alarm Starter2 relay wiring ( and even use my suggestion for the GWR input ).   Every installer will do the wiring slightly differently. It's all personal preference, usually derived from experience.Soldering is fun!

kreg357, I like your preferred way best and will be wiring it that way. I am still researching and trying to figure out the rest of the wires but currently am stuck with a question. In this application (2005 Pathfinder/Viper 5704/DLPK) do you recommend wiring it D2D(1 Way), D2D(2 Way), or W2W? Thanks for all your help!

Personally, I'm old school.  I still do most installs in the W2W mode.  But I do enjoy soldering. 

It takes longer and requires some heat shrink tube, solder, tie wraps and electric tape but it always works and you know exactly which wire does what.

With the components you have chosen, you should be able to go D2D 2-way pretty easily and it should work.  It will save you about seven wires.

The choice is yours.  You can try D2D 2-way and if that doesn't work, you can always switch over to W2W, as long as

you don't cut short or de-pin your unused wires.

The next area of concern is :

1.  Does your Pathfinder have the Factory Alarm system?2.  Does your Pathfinder have a Factory Hood Trigger? The answer to question 1 will determine if you have to run wires to empty pin holes in a BCM connector.

The answer to question 2 will determine if the DLPK will supply the Hood Status or if you must install the Viper kit's

hood pin.

Soldering is fun!