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intmd8rfn3

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Posted: March 21, 2004 at 3:15 PM / IP Logged

I have installed remote start into a 2004 Caravan, and the remote start works. However, I cannot start the system with the key. I have used the TBKIII bypass for the sentry key, and have connected the yellow key sense wire to the Violet/Dark Blue wire coming off the ignition switch, which in my wiring diagram, shows as 'ignition switch sense return'. Any help in figuring this out would be greatly appreciated thanks.

Also, I cannot seem to find a WHITE/ tan wire in the driver's kick panel area for the parking lights. Is this wire near the brake switch and that area? And with the door locks, is there anyway to connect to the door locks without putting in a DRL? Thanks for any help.

intmd8rfn3

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Posted: March 21, 2004 at 3:28 PM / IP Logged

Also forgot to mention, that when the yellow key sense wire from the TBKIII is not connected, the TBKIII constantly fires when the key is in the on position, and the vehicle is not running. Thanks again for any help.

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Posted: March 21, 2004 at 4:16 PM / IP Logged

connector 3, pin 21 @ The BCM in the drivers kick panel near the parking brake. It has 5 plugs in it, one 6 pin plug and four 34 pin plugs.Lock is negative trigger thru a 5.3K ohm resistor. Unlock is negative trigger thru a 2.0K ohm resistor. MUST use relays

You need to hook up the ground out when running wire to the TBKIII . Did you do this ??

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intmd8rfn3

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Posted: March 21, 2004 at 4:26 PM / IP Logged

Yes, I hooked up the ground when running output to the remote start. If I disconnect the yellow wire from the TBKIII there is no problem starting with the key, but then I lose all accessories. Where can I get these resistors? Also, if I make this setup, I should be able to get the door lock to work, right? One more thing, the wires with the resistors run to where? Thanks for your help.

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Posted: March 21, 2004 at 4:34 PM / IP Logged

What do you mean you loose all accrssories ? All I would do is return the TBKIII and describe your situation for a replacememnt unit or cehck the ground out when running wire. The TBKIII has only 1 trigger wire input and should only be activating when the remote start is activated. So check out the ground out when running wire to ensure that the wire is not getting a ground signal when not in the remote start sequence.

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intmd8rfn3

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Posted: March 21, 2004 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged

If I do not have the yellow key sense wire connected from the TBKIII, I do not have any accessories. Actually, I do not have accessories after inserting the key and turning it to the on position. But once I connected the yellow key sense wire, I got my accessories with the key in the on position, but now cannot start my vehicle with the key. It will start, but then turns off as if the Sentry key is not working properly.

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Posted: March 22, 2004 at 12:48 AM / IP Logged

How did you hookup the violet/brown starter 2 wire? If you don't use a diode in the circuit you will lose your accessories as described. It should be hooked up as follows, note the diode which is NECESSARY!:

2004 Caravan Remote start -- posted image.

Also I'm showing the key sense as light blue, but not sure on this I don't usually hook them up it shouldn't be necessary. If that seems to be the problem with the install I would say something else isn't right as it shouldn't make any major difference. Also if your using the same wire for the TBKIII igntion out and the starter 2 wire, you need 2 diodes.

For the parking lights just look at the harness coming off of the headlight switch itself real easy to access.

WHITE/ brown = (-) through a 5.3k ohm resistor.

For locks use the info Jeff posted above. Look at the bcm there are 4 plugs vertically. You want the second down from the top or the 3rd up from the bottom. (same plug either way)

Good luck,

Mike

intmd8rfn3

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Posted: March 22, 2004 at 4:22 AM / IP Logged

Mike, thanks for the help so far. I have used a diagram from Jeff regarding hooking up the violet/brown wire as pictured here. I also don't see any 3rd ignition wire, where would this connection go to from the relay? Thanks for your help, this is answering my questions.

With regards to the door locks. If using the diagram that Jeff provided, do I need to connect the (-) or the (+) wire to the resistors? Thanks again.

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Posted: March 22, 2004 at 8:08 AM / IP Logged

The locks require a negative trigger and if your unit doesn't have a 3 rd IGN output, just use the ground out when running wire instead.

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Posted: March 22, 2004 at 8:21 AM / IP Logged

The Ignition 3 (-) out is the same as an active out (-) or some units call it a status out (-). Or it should be the same as the ground out when running wire that you are using for the TBKIII. Are you connecting BOTH the TBKIII AND the relay for the violet/brown to the ground out when running wire? If so, as mentioned you NEED 2 diodes to isolate the two. The diodes are not optional and if not used you lose your accessory.

Also the second starter needs to see a ground through a 180 ohm resistor. The diagram you posted shows it giving it straight 12volts positive, without a resistor. I'm assuming Jeff just gave you that diagram as a guide to hooking up the second starter wire to get an idea of how to wire the relay.

If using the diagram Jeff posted for locks, connect it exactly as shown that diagram is fine. You connect the resistors to pins 30 as shown in the diagram and MAKE SURE pins 87 both have ground on them. What ever you do, do not connect 12volts to those resistors. By the way in the diagram where the red wire crosses the yellow resistor wire, that is NOT a connection.

I always recommend the diagram below for resistor door locks for a few reasons:

1. Using the positive locks from the module saves the need to put an fuse inline. 99% of units out there will have flip flopping +/- locks.

2. Aside from the lock wires themselves being positive, there is no 12volts being connected to the relays meaning very little chance of you wiring them wrong and throwing 12volts into the negative lock wire..

Either diagram works. Good luck,

Mike

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