the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

Ohm’s Law Calculation


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
davep. 
Gold - Posts: 644
Gold spacespace
Joined: May 27, 2011
Location: California, United States
Posted: February 04, 2017 at 8:58 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.
I've never been proficient with Ohm's Law regarding Resistance. Thanks for any help.
I have a relay coil of 82 Ohms. System voltage is 13.5 Nominal. System voltage on #86, #85 to ground. .164 Amp. I can do this calculation.
Now: I want to put a resistor in series with #85 and ground. Then insert system voltage between #85 and the resistor. B+ to B+, the relay opens. I pick 10 volts across the relay coil for reliable-enough closure. Hopefully the resistor doesn't have to be too large a wattage to sink system voltage to ground, nor the current in the "insertion" wire too high.
Here's a visual: 13.5V--82 Ohms--10V--R=?--0V.
What is the value of the second resistor "R=?" ?Even better, how is this calculation performed? I have two resistances in series, and know what the desired voltage in the middle of the two resistances is. I can't figure out how to calculate the value of the second resistor.
Thanks.
the12volt 
Administrator - Posts: 3,956
Administrator spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: March 07, 2002
Location: Louisiana, United States
Posted: February 05, 2017 at 4:20 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote the12volt
If you want to go from 12V to 10V, create a voltage divider with two resistors.
Voltage source positive to resistor 1.
Voltage source ground to resistor 2.
Resistor 1 to resistor 2.
Voltage positive output where resistor 1 and resistor 2 connect.
The resistance of the coil of the relay is not relevant to the voltage divider, but I'll use 82 ohms as the value of resistance 1 in my example.
Voltage out = (voltage source x resistance 2) / (resistance 1 + resistance 2)
Vout = (Vs x R2) / (R1 + R2)
10V = (13.5 x R2) / (82 + R2)
R2 = (10 x 82) / (13.5 - 10)
R2 = 234.2857142857143
R2 = 234.286 ohms
Ohm’s Law Calculation - Last Post -- posted image. the12volt • Support the12volt.com
the12volt 
Administrator - Posts: 3,956
Administrator spaceThis member has made a donation to the12volt.com. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Electrical Theory. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Audio and Video. Click here for more info.spaceThis member has been recognized as an authority in Mobile Security and Convenience. Click here for more info.spacespace
Joined: March 07, 2002
Location: Louisiana, United States
Posted: February 05, 2017 at 6:10 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote the12volt
Just re-read your post and a bit confused as to what it is you're trying to do. Are you wanting to use the relay coil as R1 to get 10V between #85 and R2, or are you wanting to send 10V to #85?
Ohm’s Law Calculation - Last Post -- posted image. the12volt • Support the12volt.com
davep. 
Gold - Posts: 644
Gold spacespace
Joined: May 27, 2011
Location: California, United States
Posted: February 05, 2017 at 8:22 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.
Thanks for the tutorial. I'll mess with it and see if I can figure it out with your help. Thanks.
What I'm trying to do may not work for a relay coil. It works for light bulbs. You may be familiar with the way GM did front side marker lights in the 80's and 90's. The marker bulb was a 194. One side was to the tail lights, and the other to the signal bulb. When the tail lights were on, the 194 grounded through the signal filament. When the tail lights were off and the turn signal was on, the 194 grounded through the tail light circuit. When both were on at the same time, the 194 went out. B+ on both sides = 0-Volts.
My idea was to do the same thing with a relay coil, BUT not ground 85 through my "injection wire". I am trying to size the second resistor so that the relay coil sees 10V, so it has enough voltage to close. The second resistor will be between my "injection voltage" and ground so as not to present a direct short to ground on my "injection wire".
As I mentioned, I use the B+ to B+ = 0-Volts strategy from time to time. It works pretty well with light bulbs. But may not with the relay coil. Thanks again for the interest.

If you wish to post a reply to this topic, you must first login.
If you are not already registered, you must first register.

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Thursday, October 31, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer