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thefranchise 
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My new alarm for some reason doesnt include the on baord setup for the (-) output for a transponder bypass module used in the remote start.

How and where should I create a relay to energize the 555u unit during the remote start process and ensure that it is deactived after the remote start?

Thanks in advance

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what kind of alarm/remote start system do you have ? the 555u has three wires ..if you refer to the manual for typical installation it will tell you that the blue wire is a -activation input, the red wire must be hooked to 12v and the white wire is not used.. remote start systems have a low current - activation output......the sytem is designed to mimic the factory immobilizer bypassing it only when it is remote started. as you remote start the vehicle the -activation is sent to the 555u which triggers the internal relay...the code from the key (previously placed inside the module)is sent through the aftermarket transponder ring around the key cylinder in the ignition, the code is matched...the remote start's relays close for a few seconds turning on your ignition in sequence...and vroom!!! 
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What kind of alarm.  You can use one of the outputs that control an ignition relay.  Or if you have on board relays, use a relay to change the polarity to a negative trigger.
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Its called the Air Wolf from PME which is the new version of the Aladdin 2000.

I am suprised it doesnt include a relay since the old Aladdin 2000 had one

thefranchise 
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How can I mimic the remote start only power to the module now?
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Personally, I wouldn't give my business to a manufacturer that would omit this almost-always-necessary wire....but I suppose that's another story.

You should be able to just take the unit's main ignition output, but instead use it to trigger two relays.  Have one relay set up for negative output; send this to the 555U.  Have the other relay make a positive output; use this to power up the ignition wire in the car.

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Most systems have a ignition3 output  (usually low current - ). You should be able to use this directly with the 555u
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The output to use would be a second ignition output or any output that puts out a negative while remote start is active.  Worse case you could use a relay off of one of the ignition wires from the remote start but you should also use another relay that will isolate the alarms ign wire from the car that way the 555u would not always be on when the car is running.  Basically what Chris had said.

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