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audioman2007 
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I have an asianwolf 8000RS (scytek 5100RS) in my car. The alarm has a dual stage shock sensor which I think is a waste to even have. Anyways, I want to tie in a glass break sensor into the shock sensor. I know I have to diode isolate. First off, would it be ok to simply tie both power wires from those sensors together, or should I run a relay for the glass sensor? If I need a relay please explane how to hook it up. Also, on my alarm I can disable the shock sensor whenever I want (for instance if we are having a bad storm). Im assuming this would then also disable the glass sensor because they would be tied together  correct? My last question is.... Are sensors on alarms bypassed when the vehicle is remote started? Thank you in advance for the responses.
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Posted: December 20, 2007 at 6:06 PM / IP Logged  
I would suggest powering the additional sensor with an independent constant fused +12V. The power coming from the small plug is typically designed only to handle the power requirements of the impact sensor. If you are using the 506T it consumes less than 1ma of current so you should not need to worry about current draw.
As far as the bypassing of sensors, yes remote start systems typically turn off the shock sensor while running under remote start so what you are suggesting should work perfectly fine.
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my glass sensor is made by scytek. It has 3 wires: red, black and blue. You said to use a relay for the power wire. So how exactly would I run that? Also, could I possibly run the ground wires together? I know to run the blue trigger wire to the full alarm wire from the shock sensor. Another problem I have is that the mic wire is only 2 feet long, so where would be a good place to mount the mic?
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1. I did not say to use a relay.
2. Yes running the ground wire to the same location as the alarm's ground is fine.
3. Mic placement would be determined by placing the mic in different locations throughout the interior testing at each location to determine the most efficient spot.
I looked through Scytek's accessories site and they do not list the installation manual for the glass sensor but I would imagine it does not draw too much current so a constant hot should work fine. Also, maybe someone should let them know that it is an 'impact' sensor, not "in pack". wire glass sensor to alarm -- posted image.
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audioman2007 
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My shock sensor has 4 wires: red, black, blue, and white.     My glass sensor has 3 wires: red, black, and blue. Im assuming the blue wire on the shock sensor is the full alarm trigger and the white wire is the warning chirps correct? Since my shock sensor goes off way too often (accidently) I was thinking of cutting the blue wire that way the shock sensor only has warn away chirps. I was then going to wire the glass sensor's blue wire to the blue wire going to the brain therefore I wouldnt need to use a diode. Would this work?

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anyone?
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if you dont use the impact sensor and cut the blue to wire up the glass sensor, you dont need a diodeon that wire. as fot thew others, if u are branching them off, they all need to be diode isolated.
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Does the Scytek system not have a wire or additional triggers ? I know the Compustar system do, this way you do not have to wire this into the existing sensors.
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just tap the red to red and black to black and blue to blue no need to diode. There is enough juice to run both. I've done it before on those.
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