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Posted: May 03, 2008 at 5:06 PM / IP Logged  

No adding resistance won't help - the relay is already adding resistance to the output - if you add too much resistance you will limit the current/voltage to the point the relay will never energize.  Adding a small amount of resistance won't do anything.

The stripe of the diode should face the siren output of the alarm.

The non striped side should face ground.

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dtk1 wrote:
try unplugging the relay and see if the siren chirp connecting it directly to the output of the brain. and see id it chirp

Have you tried this yet?  I am willing to bet that the alarm is sending out a chirp to the siren when the ignition is turned off.  If it is you can fix this problem with a simple delayed relay diagram from this site. 

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i am an idiot wrote:

dtk1 wrote:
try unplugging the relay and see if the siren chirp connecting it directly to the output of the brain. and see id it chirp

Have you tried this yet?  I am willing to bet that the alarm is sending out a chirp to the siren when the ignition is turned off.  If it is you can fix this problem with a simple delayed relay diagram from this site. 

If thats the case wouldn't it have chirped before he added the relay?  The first post makes it sound like everything was working fine until he added the relay, now it chirps.

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I am still trying to figure out what the diode is going to fix.  Something is telling the relay to energize briefly, the lack of a diode is not making it energize.  The diode will only kill the spike created when the electrical field collapses when power is removed from the coil. 
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Posted: May 03, 2008 at 8:51 PM / IP Logged  
The diode probaly won't "fix" anything, but if he wants the siren output to last a long time it would be a good idea to add one.  The collapse of the coil has the potential to destory the transistorized siren output considering the siren output wasn't intended to drive inductive loads.
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