the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
icon

adding a fuel preheater


Post ReplyPost New Topic
< Prev Topic Next Topic >
smilezalwz 
Member - Posts: 3
Member spacespace
Joined: June 30, 2008
Location: California, United States
Posted: June 30, 2008 at 1:42 PM / IP Logged  
This is for an '02 Rav4.
The heater has one ground and one power coming from it.
I know how to hard wire it to the battery with a switch, but I don't want to risk forgetting to switch it off and draining the battery.
How do I wire it so that it turns on when the ignition is switched to accessories and turns off when ignition switched to off?
Thanx
gus1 
Gold - Posts: 1,013
Gold spacespace
Joined: October 15, 2003
Location: Canada
Posted: June 30, 2008 at 3:38 PM / IP Logged  
Ummm..... cooler fuel makes more power.......
The only time a fuel preheater is a good idea is when running SVO on a diesel conversion.....thins it out and makes it easier on the injection system.
Or is this for a Webasto style coolant heater that burns the vehicle fuel? Not a good idea on gas motors, but they do work nicely on diesels.
Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
smilezalwz 
Member - Posts: 3
Member spacespace
Joined: June 30, 2008
Location: California, United States
Posted: June 30, 2008 at 8:55 PM / IP Logged  
The purpose of the preheater is to aid in the vaporization of the fuel and having it mix better with the air. The result...same amt of power with lesser amt of fuel.
At least that's what's been said...and it seems to make sense.
Besides, with gas prices the way they are nowadays I'm willing to try it out.
I'm thinking of tapping into power from an existing fuse, but that might not be the 'correct' way.
i am an idiot 
Platinum - Posts: 13,670
Platinum spaceThis member consistently provides reliable informationspace
Joined: September 21, 2006
Location: Louisiana, United States
Posted: June 30, 2008 at 9:49 PM / IP Logged  
adding a fuel preheater -- posted image.

Ground terminal 85    Connect a switched 12 volt source (radio accesory or an ignition) to terminal 86.

Connect terminal 30 to your battery via a fuse mounted at the battery.    Terminal 87 goes to the positive connection of your heater.    Ground the ground terminal of the heater.         You do not use 87A

gus1 
Gold - Posts: 1,013
Gold spacespace
Joined: October 15, 2003
Location: Canada
Posted: June 30, 2008 at 11:32 PM / IP Logged  
Yes, it will atomize better, but, on a fuel injected vehicle, the ECU will also compensate for fuel temp, and change the injection cycle accordingly. It will still inject the fuel the same no matter what temp it is. As to it atomizing more effectively? I dunno..... I would doubt it. The ECU knows that it takes x amount of fuel per volume of air for combustion, the actual injector nozzles control the vaporization into the combustion chamber. I rate this right up there with the airflow things that have been popping up. No matter what you do upstream of the intake manifold, it is still the same amount of air going into the cylnders, flowing through the intake runners the same way it always does.
You want better fuel mileage, get either a more efficient vehicle or have the ECU reprogrammed for a better efficiency curve.
A proper regular maintenence schedule is the best way to maintain efficiency. I'd also be wary of heating gasoline.... it is volatile enough at normal storage temps..... heating may very well cause some unexpected results with vapour.
Wherever I go, that is where I end up......
smilezalwz 
Member - Posts: 3
Member spacespace
Joined: June 30, 2008
Location: California, United States
Posted: July 01, 2008 at 3:13 PM / IP Logged  
Thanx for the diagram.
As far as what the heater will do...I'll find out. If in fact it doesn't work, at least i can revert back to the old way.
But if it does work, then people have an option to do it for themselves and know that somebody's tried it already with real world results.
I've already taken baseline readings and will be recording the mpg results over the next few weeks.
I'll keep you guys posted.

Sorry, you can NOT post a reply.
This topic is closed.

  Printable version Printable version Post ReplyPost New Topic
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot create polls in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum

  •  
Search the12volt.com
Follow the12volt.com Follow the12volt.com on Facebook
Friday, May 3, 2024 • Copyright © 1999-2024 the12volt.com, All Rights Reserved Privacy Policy & Use of Cookies
Disclaimer: *All information on this site ( the12volt.com ) is provided "as is" without any warranty of any kind, either expressed or implied, including but not limited to fitness for a particular use. Any user assumes the entire risk as to the accuracy and use of this information. Please verify all wire colors and diagrams before applying any information.

Secured by Sectigo
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer
Support the12volt.com
Top
the12volt.com spacer
the12volt.com spacer