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a137 
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Posted: August 03, 2008 at 9:19 PM / IP Logged  
Finally got it working:
jeep srt8 06
XK532
Clifford responder 3.3 x
Connection was done by "D2D" cable.
Car starts remotely, shuts down as prescribed (after pressing RS button again on a remote or brake pedal etc.)
Locks and unlocks both from factory fob and Clifford remote
Opens hatch both from factory fob and Clifford remote.
But any action which should be followed by feedback confirmation ends with "out of range" or error signal (transmit and F LEDs light up and remote beeps for 1 second), however main action is completed, just no any feedback.
What I didn't - didn't programm transmitters (thinking this procedure is for adding new remotes)
What could it be?
a137 
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Posted: August 06, 2008 at 11:26 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks, tried, but it didn't work
Also tried to disconnect main module for 20 minutes - no result.
Another strange thing - car succesfully starts in a short period after last "lock", however after a while (don't measured exacltly, but I guess grater that 15-20 minutes) - the attempt to remote start the car leads to triggering alarm (horn+highbeam flashes). After relocking (unlock and lock) car starts fine.
Could it be linked to no feedback problem?
I'm personally doubt, because "no feedback" looks like radio frequency or protocol issue, cause I can't read cabin temperature, which is no way remote start related.
Or may be internal shock sensor is too sensitive and is not ignored during remote start?
Big Dog 
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Posted: August 07, 2008 at 9:07 AM / IP Logged  

It's factory alarm for sure. Did you connect the small pink negative ignition of the 3.3 to the brown "ground when running" input of the XK532?

Internal impact sensor not an issue.....it's software controlled.

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a137 
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Posted: August 07, 2008 at 9:54 PM / IP Logged  
No, I connected it to small blue RS status (-) 200mA instead
Is it correct?
Big Dog 
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Posted: August 08, 2008 at 7:51 AM / IP Logged  

That will yield the same result.

BTW, it's a Jeep what? Grand Cherokee?

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a137 
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Posted: August 08, 2008 at 11:29 PM / IP Logged  
yes it's jeep grand cherokee srt8, 06
xk532 chldr7
clifford 3.3x
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Posted: August 09, 2008 at 12:33 PM / IP Logged  
Communication problem is most likely a glitch with the earlier release of their Responder LE units.  There was a wave of units released that had multiple issues.  Directed has stated they fixed the problem and so far I've never had a problem with them.  You will most likely need to replace the brain, remotes, and possibly, the antenna.
a137 
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Posted: August 10, 2008 at 9:16 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for info
Mine has 06.08 stamped on warranty lable and PCB.
Is June subjected as well?
Big Dog 
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Posted: August 11, 2008 at 8:29 AM / IP Logged  
Before we condemn the brain/antenna/remotes, try connecting the bypass to the 5701 using the analog control instead of D2D.
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a137 
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Posted: August 11, 2008 at 10:33 PM / IP Logged  
Agree, I'll try this W2W.
First step I did was to replace plain 4 wire D2D cable by shielded one made from USB cable, just cut 30 cm piece from PC USB 2.0 cable stripped and soldered dei connectors.
Works most functions but stable remote start.
Just discovered reliable procedure for RS - to press "Lock" and after 2 seconds "Remote start" - gives 100% result.
Opened and checked by zoom lens both remote and antenna module for bad soldering, no visible defects.
Have hi-res photos of both, can post them, if somebody is interested
Big Dog,
if you had some expereience with D2D - could you please explain what's the difference between brown and blue connector of facotry D2D cable, as I said both look phisically indentical, however XK manual says "blue plug of D2D Cable plugs into the upgradeable vehicle interface module". What's the reason of this colour preference?
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