how to get more db

If your vehicle produces 83db with just the a/c on and the windows rolled up, you need a muffler.  And although 85 is generally considered the magic number to be dangerous, you could go deaf from 83db (although it would probably take about 16 hours continuous exposure to cause hearing damage.)  The point I am making is 130db is louder than you need daily driver levels to be, so it sounds like unless you are competing (or, like others have said, are involved in "mine is bigger" contests with other kids in your area) then you are plenty loud.  The cost of getting louder is high, although not just money, it is also in modifying your vehicle or giving up things like baby seat space.  (BTW, a baby's hearing could be damaged by 83db MUCH faster than yours.)  Perhaps these web sites might help you: 

How many installers or salesmen tell these kids that this systems they have just sold them could cause them

to have hearing loss. None Everyone asumes you know this. But alot of kids do not. DYohn is not scoldin' him

just informing him

DYohn wrote: Yes, well, anyone who talks about wanting to get to 140db in a vehicle that they also use to carry a child in a baby seat needs to be educated about hearing damage due to excessive noise.  A kid deserves to make its own decision about going deaf, not have it forced on them by their parent.

i know your a mod and try and not take this the wrong way but really terminator hit it on the head, the car seat goes in when i take the other "family" truck to hauld my fourwheeler around, and im not a retard i know im going deaf and i listen to sports radio when my sons in the car, now if that satisfys the child protective service here thanks on the replys, the truck is getting lowered and (fingers crossed) shaved this winter and i was kinda thinkin if i think it looks good enough i might try to dabble in the show scene that being the case i was just wondering if i could go louder without anythign drastic being done, cause i still (sometimes) have to put a car seat in there if the wife is driving it.

and the 130db better than everyone thing, why cant someone just have one that loud cause thats what theyre into, ive had subs in every car ive had since i was 15, i finally make enough money to do something that i really want to do and im getting flamed for it, from a moderator on a car audio forum no less.

oh and i do have muffler a flowmaster 50hd and gibson headers, it could be an inacurate meter idk but at 2000 rpm windows up it says right around 80db

i guess you cant edit these, but anywasy i really do want to thank you all for the information./