08 f350, keyless, strange problem

I am installing a keyless system in my 08 Ford F350.  Real basic.  It currently has power locks but does not have keyless.  So I hook my wires up and just do a jump to the power lock and power unlock wires (from what I read).  I hit the unlock button and I can hear the relay in the brain work but it does not unlock the truck.  Same with the lock.  Thats my first problem.  Which lock system do I have?  I thought I had the 3 wire negative but maybe not.  The real problem is very strange.  My parking lights will not go off.  Real weird.  I have everything disconnected from the brain and they still stay on.  The only way I can get them off is if I ground the parking light wire, or if I disconnect the batteries.  wth?  I don't get it.  What the hell did I do?  Please help me here.  Thanks.

boulderbronco, when you use the switch, do the locks work? but they do nothing with the transmitter?

ckeeler wrote: boulderbronco, when you use the switch, do the locks work? but they do nothing with the transmitter?

You mean the factory lock/unlock button?  Yeah.  It works fine.  But using the transmitter it does not.  The big problem I have is not being able to get my parking lights off.  That and apparently I am hooked into the wrong lock and unlock wires.  Or I have a different locking system.  Like the "5 wire reversal rest at ground."

The switch is no good now....Did you have autolites(autolights)? I know a guy that wired at the switch and had the same problem....The fix is to get the lights at the kick panel WHITE/ purple I think..... But the switch will need to be replaced...Or atleast thats what ford told us...

this will be the third time ive run into this on these fords. do a 5 wire setup, then msg me and ill walk you thru the rest.

Thanks guys.  I do not have DRL (daytime running lights) or autolights.  I am currently hooked into the WHITE/ violet wire as that is the one that tested right.  Strange though as this list says a different wire.  So you think I toasted my headlight switch?  Makes sense I guess.  But if thats the case, and I have the right wire, how am I suposed to hook up my parking lights?  I have it hooked to the WHITE/ violet about 12" from the switch itself.   Am I suposed to tap into it after a junction or relay or something? 

ckeeler,

So your saying I don't have the 3 wire negative I have the 5 wire reversal?  That means I need a relay setup according to my manual.  By the way I am installing an Omega REC-11+.

Thanks again guys for your help.  Here is what I found on this site for wiring for my truck.

Here is what Audiovox lists for the 08 F350:

                #512299: 2008 FORD F350 2DR TRUCK      Audio/Mobile Video                                              WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION           Battery          WHITE/ RED          (+)          RADIO HARNESS           Accesory          BLUE          (+)          RADIO HARNESS           Ground          BLACK/ BLUE          (-)          RADIO HARNESS           Illumination          VIOLET/GRAY          (+)          RADIO HARNESS           Amp Turn On          VIOLET/RED          (+)          RADIO HARNESS           LF Speaker (+)          WHITE           LF Speaker (-)          WHITE/ BROWN           RF Speaker (+)          WHITE/ VIOLET           RF Speaker (-)          WHITE/ ORANGE           LR Speaker (+)          WHITE/ GREEN           LR Speaker (-)          BROWN / YELLOW           RR Speaker (+)          BROWN / WHITE           RR Speaker (-)          BROWN / BLUE           Steering Cntrls          OPTIONAL           Radio Security          YES           Security                                              WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION           Battery          BLUE/RED          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH                     FOR HIGH CURRENT LOAD GO TO VEHICLE BATTERY           Ignition 1          WHITE/ ORANGE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH           Starter 1          BLUE/WHITE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH           All Door Trigger          VIOLET          (+)          UNDER DRIVERS SILL IN HARNESS COMING FROM PASS SIDE                     GREEN WIRE UNDER DRIVERS SILL IN HARNESS COMING FROM PASSENGER SIDE           Domelight Super          GREEN/ BLUE          (-)          HEADLIGHT SWITCH           LF Latch          GREEN/ VIOLET          (OPEN)          IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL                     THESE TRIGGERS REST AT (-) AND ARE OPEN WHEN THE DOOR IS OPEN           RF Latch          WHITE          (OPEN)          IN HARNESS IN PASSENGER KICKPANEL           Parking Lights          BLUE/GRAY          (-)          HEADLIGHT SWITCH                     IF THE VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AUTO HEAD LAMPS USE MUST USE TWO RELAYS. ONE RELAY WILL GET CONNECTED TO WHITE/ VIOLET(HEADLAMP OFF) THE OTHER WIRE WILL GET CONNECTED TOVIOLET/GREEN(AUTOLAMP ON). WITHOUT AUTOLAMP ONLY ONE RELAY ON HEADLAMP OFF.           Low Crr Pk Lights          VIOLET/WHITE          (+)          DRIVERS KICKPANEL           Convenience                                              WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION           Headlights-Lo          YELLOW/BLUE          (-)          HEADLIGHT SWITCH           Parking Brake          WHITE/ VIOLET          (-)          AT VEHICLE PARKING BRAKE SWITCH           Seat Mem 1          VIOLET/WHITE          (-)          IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL TO DOOR           Seat Mem 2          YELLOW          (-)          IN HARNESS IN DRIVER KICKPANEL TO DOOR           Remote Start                                              WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION           Battery          BLUE/RED          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH                     FOR HIGH CURRENT LOAD GO TO VEHICLE BATTERY           Ignition 1          WHITE/ ORANGE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH           Accessory 1          VIOLET/GREEN          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH           Accessory 2          BROWN / YELLOW          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH           Starter 1          BLUE/WHITE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH           Anti-Theft Type          FORD PATS® OR SECURILOCK® VEHICLE IMMOBILIZER           Anti-Theft Descript          THE KEY SENDS AN RF SIGNAL TO THE BCM MODULE THROUGH AN ANTENNA LOCATED AROUND THE IGNITION CYLINDER           Key Sense          BLUE/GRAY          (+)          STEERING COLUMN HARNESS           Tachometer          BLUE          (AC)          AT HARNESS NEXT TO BRAKE PEDAL                     SEE THE PICTURE IN DOCUMENT SECTION           Speed Sense          YELLOW/BLUE          (AC)          AT ABS CONTROL MODULE                     ALSO AT WIPER MOTOR           Parking Lights          BLUE/GRAY          (-)          HEADLIGHT SWITCH                     IF THE VEHICLE IS EQUIPPED WITH AUTO HEAD LAMPS USE MUST USE TWO RELAYS. ONE RELAY WILL GET CONNECTED TO WHITE/ VIOLET(HEADLAMP OFF) THE OTHER WIRE WILL GET CONNECTED TOVIOLET/GREEN(AUTOLAMP ON). WITHOUT AUTOLAMP ONLY ONE RELAY ON HEADLAMP OFF.           Low Crr. Pk Lights          VIOLET/WHITE          (+)          DRIVERS KICKPANEL           Brake Lights          VIOLET/WHITE          (+)          BRAKE SWITCH           Reverse Lights          GREEN/ BROWN          (+)          IN HARNESS IN DRIVER SILL PANEL           Horn          YELLOW/RED          (-)          STEERING COLUMN HARNESS           Modules                                              WIRE          LOCATION                               Please select another category      Doorlocks/Windows                                              WIRE          COLOR          POLARITY          LOCATION           Door Lock Circuit          3 WIRE NEG           Power Unlock          YELLOW/VIOLET          (-)          DRIVERS SIDE KICK PANEL                     WITHOUT KEYLESS ENTRY 5 WIRE REVERSE POLARITY           PowerLock          BLUE/GREEN          (-)          DRIVERS SIDE KICK PANEL                     WITHOUT KEYLESS ENTRY 5 WIRE REVERSE POLARITY           Driver Mtr Unlock          VIOLET/GRAY          (+)          DRIVERS SIDE KICK PANEL           Driver Mtr Lock          GRAY/BROWN          (+)          DRIVERS SIDE KICK PANEL           Pas Mtr Unlock          BROWN / GREEN          (+)          UNDER PASSENGER SIDE DOOR SILL PLATE     

i am an idiot wrote: If your lights are still staying on, There is a burnt trace inside the switch body itself.  Remove the switch, remove the 3 screws on the back of the switch, remove the case of the switch.  There is a very small trace on the board that has burnt open.  Simply solder a small wire from the next component left of the burn, solder the other end of the wire to the next component right of the burn. You asked "What did I do", for all of these things that I have repaired so far, the installers all said the same thing, I looked at the computer for the wire colors but I forgot to check the polarity.  So if I had to guess, you used the wrong polarity when you connected to the wire at the switch.

Right.  I'm trying that fix but with .050" solder and a rather large iron it's a tough do.  But that is definatly the problem.  Now my manual says the wire should still work with a (-) polarity signal switch.  It says "Some vehicles...triggered by a Negative Ground circuit from the headlight switch.  These cars can still be coonnected directly to the White wire by finding the parking light circuit after the relay, usually at the Fuse/Junction Block."  So I take that to mean I should basically hook my wire to the back of the light itself.  Also if you look at that wiring list I posted it says the parking lights are Blue/Gray (-) at the headlight switch.  There is no Blue/Gray wire there.  Below that it says low Crr. PK lights (+) drivers kick panel.  That is the one I am connected to (it actuall comes right off the switch.  Anyway thanks for the help.  I'll just run my wire into the engine bay and hook to the wire directly at the parking light and just get a new headlight switch.

But now what do I do about my locks?

I'm not sure what those tech notes are talking about. I've done multiple 08s that were not equiped with factory keyless. The wires will be blue/green and yellow/violet(-) in drivers kick. You need to test because there are a couple of each of that colors. For the parklights I use violet/white (+) In the Drivers kick..not at the switch

mikvot wrote: I'm not sure what those tech notes are talking about. I've done multiple 08s that were not equiped with factory keyless. The wires will be blue/green and yellow/violet(-) in drivers kick. You need to test because there are a couple of each of that colors. For the parklights I use violet/white (+) In the Drivers kick..not at the switch

Thats how I have the locks hooked up.  I jumped in at the door grommet just to check and it didn't work.  If there are multiple of those colors I supose I could have the wrong ones.  But I didn't think manufacturers ever, ever put the same coded wire in the same harness.  So your saying the 08 F350 without keyless has a 3 wire negative pulse system?  Thats what I was thinking it had.  I'll look into the multiple coded wire issue tomorrow.  As for the parking lights I just hooked into the wire right behind the headlight.