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no dash lights come on (the ones like brake, oil, abs, etc.)

the parking lights flash once - then the relays click - the engine does not try to turn over nor does the starter engage - it does retry but i hit the brake to abort the retries

i connected the tach wire to the tan / YELLOW wire at the pcm (labeled ignition control module (icm))

have not done the tach learning routine - thought it did that on its first start or when you make it do the learn routine - thought the remote starter had to start the car to do it

i have changed one setting from the defaults - automatic transmission

i am not sure if i am using the right wires on the viper heavy gauge harness - i tried the wires i think are right when i had the failure

start - viper violet to RED / light blue

accessory - viper orange to gray / YELLOW

ignition 1 - viper pink to light GREEN/ purple

ignition 2 - viper RED / white to BLACK/ light green

i also tried the viper pink/white to BLACK/ light green (ignition 2 wire on the viper?)

there is no GREEN/ YELLOW on the car's ignition harness - i assume it meant gray / YELLOW - there is no 12v on this wire in the key accessory position

here is the pinout of the ignition harness - i posted the results of testing with the dimm above but it might not be clear

http://mysite.verizon.net/respkm62/viper5301ina1995fordexplorer/id34.html

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BLACK/ WHITE _______Neutral safety switch input

Connect this wire to a ground source if installing this unit in an automatic transmission

vehicle. If this unit is being installed in a manual transmission vehicle

then connect it to the emergency brake wire. This input MUST rest at ground in

order for the remote start system to operate.

Important! Always perform the steps outlined in Safety Check section to verify

that the vehicle cannot be started in ANY drive gear and that the override switch

is functioning properly.

To learn the tach signal:

1. Start the vehicle with the key.

2. Within 5 seconds, press and hold the Valet/Program

switch.

3. After 3 seconds the LED will light constant when the

tach signal is learned.

4. Release the Valet/Program switch.

...Orange is Accessory...

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RED / White is...                    (+) 30a fused ignition 2/flex relay, pin 87, input.

Pink/white is ...                  + Ignition 2 output...should go on 2nd ignition in vehicle ...never installed one of these...guide is confusing  for first time reading through

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aha - i just noticed something - the 95 explorer was a strange year - its computer was a combination of the older obd 1 and newer obd 2 - so i looked at the 1994 chart from here

StarterRED / Light Blue Ignition Switch Harness 
IgnitionRED / Light Green Ignition Switch Harness 
Ignition 2BLACK/ Green Ignition Switch Harness (Blower Motor) 
AccessoryGray / YELLOW (+) Ignition Switch Harness 

the gray / YELLOW is there but on my car, gray / YELLOW does not have 12v in accessory

not a perfect match to what is on my car either

the BLACK/ white is connected to ground - i used the same connection to the chassis as i used for the unit ground

i just tried the tach learn routine - when the light lit up, i heard a click in the viper - seemed to work - tried the resote start again - same result

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What is the result again...Is it One click{sound}...One light flash...?
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Does the gray / YELLOW have 12v in the ON position...Then drop during crank...?
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How many wires do you have hooked to 12v...How many black white wires are on the R/S...Appears to be 2...one is dome light ...the other is neutral safety...Isnt there another 12v wire on the 11 pin harness that needs powered up...?
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sounds like several clicks - no start or cranking still - the parking lights flash once briefly then the clicks - these are not the idiot lights that flash (oil, fasten belts, abs, etc.)

this is what each wire on the car harness reads

r/lb - 12v start - 0 run - 0 accessory     (start)

lg/p - 12v start - 12v run - 0 accessory     (ignition 1)

bk/lg - 0 start - 12v run - 12v accessory     (accessory)

gy/y - 0 start - 12v run - 0 accessory    (ignition 2)

yellow - 12v always - i connected this wire to the primary harness red wire - constant - i think it powers the unit

the gray / YELLOW has 12v in run only

on the 12v constant - only 1 wire - the red from the primary harness

pin 11 of the primary harness is white - parking lights - connected

the dome light is on pin 9 of the primary harness - BLACK/ white - i don't have it connected yet

the neutral/safety is pin 1 of the remote start input harness - since this has an automatic transmission, it is connected to the bolt i used for ground on the chassis - i have the black wire from the primary harness pin 5 connected to this same bolt

not sure if the duplicate wires on the ignition harness on the car function the same - maybe i should try the alternate wire

i will also perform the setup for automatic transmission again to see if that works

and you are right - the manual sucks

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What do you have RED / Black off R/S hooked to...? Appears on guide like it needs 12v...R/S usually have 2 constant wires...1 for constant power/memory...2nd for starter output...etc
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well i only have 1 connection to constant power - from the primary harness (smaller wire) that supplies power for the memory

that wire (RED / black) is fused and connected to nothing right now - it is on the heavy gauge harness

Connection description:  Fused (30A) accessory/starter input

Harness wire color:  RED / Black

Install manual text:  This wire is the polarity feed to the accessory and starter relays.

think it needs constant power?  the yellow on the car's ignition harness?

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