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money410 
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Posted: August 10, 2010 at 10:09 PM / IP Logged  
ok i have a start stop button out of a nissan altima..the button is momentary switch (simple push button) i have figured relays to turn on and off with a latching affect to where if upi push the button once it turns the relays on and they stay on now if u press the button one more time it turns the relays back off...
i need it to where i push that button and relays turn on as they do now..to turn on ignition one (fuel pump etc) then as im holding that button down for three seconds (fuel pump run time) then another relay,gate,circut, watever you wish to call it needs to open (starter).. when i release this button the ignition one needs to stay on but the starter needs to go off..
then the vechicle would be running as normal.when i push that start stop button again it also has to be delayed to where if i pudoodie less then 3 secs the starter will not engage
i will post a link of my you tube video so you can see what i already have working
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money410 
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Posted: August 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM / IP Logged  
http://www.you tube.com/watch?v=UlqJL4on0JA
ok thats the link
as u can see the switches turn power to button never mind when i push blue button n it says acc thats un important for my topic..when i push button in it shows 12+volts meaning ignition one on..press again ignition of 0.00volts
it has to be if i hold that button it holds ignition one on then after 3 seconds activates astarter to allow fuel pump time and all other car relays to energize..but when i go to turn car off the button cannot hit starter again or it will destroy the starter and i dont need that
i hopen im makeing it clear its the best i can describe
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dualsport 
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Posted: August 10, 2010 at 11:15 PM / IP Logged  

Not famiiar with the switch you're using in the video, so I don't know exactly what you've got going on in there, but I assume it's a momentary push button that you're controlling a latching relay with.

Since you say you don't need any drive current from the output, you can use a circuit like this to delay the onset of the trigger from your push button.

This assumes your signal sits at 12V normally when you're not pushing it, and goes to ground when you do. 

When you push the button, there will be a delay time (controlled by the values you use for the resistor and capacitor), and then the output will go to 12V.  When you release and the input goes to 12V, the output should drop back to zero right away.

If you're driving a starter, then you'll obviously need to have an relay driver to be controlled by this output, and not run it directly, because there won't be enough current from the IC.

Note - If your button is only closing to ground but is just open circuit when it's not pushed, then the circuit will have to be modified, because it relies on an input of 12V to keep the output off.

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howie ll 
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Posted: August 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM / IP Logged  
Kevin Pearson makes these units, contact him.
howie ll 
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Posted: August 11, 2010 at 4:56 PM / IP Logged  
Apologies KP, I meant Pierson.
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