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91stt 
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Posted: September 22, 2010 at 10:39 AM / IP Logged  
Examining the wiring diagrams for this car, all I can say is make sure the BLACK / YELLOW wire makes a good solid connection with the avistart ignition (pink from satellite relay module) wire. Even this is not necessarily going to fix your issue because this wire power a few components that are needed while the engine is running but it is a start.
Do you know if the scanner you used is capable of reading manufacturer's specific dtc's?
Here is the list again, with the D4 flash codes and corresponding DTC code.
Flash     DTC Code     Problem
Code
1     P1753     Lock-Up Control Solenoid "A"
5     P1705     A/T Gear Position Switch
6     P1706     A/T Gear Position Switch
7     P0753     Shift Control Solenoid "A"
8     P0758     Shift Control Solenoid "B"
9     P0720     Countershaft Speed Sensor
15     P0715     Mainshaft Speed Sensor
16     P1768     A/T Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid "A"
22     P0763     Shift Control Solenoid "C"
23     P1773     A/T Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid "B"
25     P1738     2nd Clutch Pressure Switch
26     P1739     3rd Clutch Pressure Switch
40     P0740     Lock-Up Control System
41     P0730     Shift Control System
45     P0780     Hydraulic System
46     P1750     Hydraulic System
47     P1751     Hydraulic System
All of the P1*** codes are Honda specific codes. Please reconfirm the codes by checking for the D4 flash codes.
The only other thing I can think of is that the car's BLACK / YELLOW wire is not being powered by the ignition output of the r/s. Check that the BLACK / YELLOW wire gets 12v when the r/s cranks the starter. If it drops out, that would most likely be your problem.
This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
sequoia2006 
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Posted: September 22, 2010 at 1:23 PM / IP Logged  
I will check the D4 flash codes. I was doing some online researches and it seemed like some other people had experienced the same problem due to the starter wire is also being monitored by the PCM to see whether the car is in P or N (neutral safety). Therefore the remote start causes confusion in the PCM and the PCM thinks that the car is in 2 different gears at the same time. However, I could not find any solution to the problem.
91stt 
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Posted: September 22, 2010 at 5:45 PM / IP Logged  
From the wiring diagrams, it does not seem likely that the gear position switch can signal more than 1 position to the PCM during remote start and not when started with key. In any case, the P and N position is the same pin on the PCM, so I don't think that is causing your problem.
I know that on some Accords of this vintage, a check engine light can come on if the starter disable relay is installed at the ignition switch. It is recommended that the relay should be install after the fuse/junction box under the driver side dash. I have not been able to confirm it, but I believe this is because with the starter disable engaged and the key is turned to the start position, the ECU and PCM do not receive start signals when they expect it. I don't think that your issue has anything to do with this but I'm throwing it out there, anyway.
Make sure that when you pull the flash codes that the D4 light is on to ensure that a hard code is set.
This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
sequoia2006 
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Posted: September 23, 2010 at 6:18 PM / IP Logged  
The installer did not install any relay at the ignition switch. He used a spare key and attached the key right next to the switch.
sequoia2006 
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Posted: September 24, 2010 at 3:05 AM / IP Logged  
91stt wrote:
Examining the wiring diagrams for this car, all I can say is make sure the BLACK / YELLOW wire makes a good solid connection with the avistart ignition (pink from satellite relay module) wire. Even this is not necessarily going to fix your issue because this wire power a few components that are needed while the engine is running but it is a start.
Do you know if the scanner you used is capable of reading manufacturer's specific dtc's?
Here is the list again, with the D4 flash codes and corresponding DTC code.
Flash     DTC Code     Problem
Code
1     P1753     Lock-Up Control Solenoid "A"
5     P1705     A/T Gear Position Switch
6     P1706     A/T Gear Position Switch
7     P0753     Shift Control Solenoid "A"
8     P0758     Shift Control Solenoid "B"
9     P0720     Countershaft Speed Sensor
15     P0715     Mainshaft Speed Sensor
16     P1768     A/T Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid "A"
22     P0763     Shift Control Solenoid "C"
23     P1773     A/T Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid "B"
25     P1738     2nd Clutch Pressure Switch
26     P1739     3rd Clutch Pressure Switch
40     P0740     Lock-Up Control System
41     P0730     Shift Control System
45     P0780     Hydraulic System
46     P1750     Hydraulic System
47     P1751     Hydraulic System
All of the P1*** codes are Honda specific codes. Please reconfirm the codes by checking for the D4 flash codes.
The only other thing I can think of is that the car's BLACK / YELLOW wire is not being powered by the ignition output of the r/s. Check that the BLACK / YELLOW wire gets 12v when the r/s cranks the starter. If it drops out, that would most likely be your problem.
I have the Equus 3130 Innova Diagnostic Code Scanner so it should be able to read manufacturer specific code.
sequoia2006 
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Posted: September 24, 2010 at 4:07 AM / IP Logged  
The other thing that I remembered was that when we did not have the Yellow (starter interrupt switch side) wire and the Violet (Starter interrupt Starter side) connected to the Starter wire from the vehicle, just the Accessories/Heater and Ignition wires are connected, it also caused D4 to flash if we tried to remotely start the car. So maybe it's not the starter wire that's causing the problem.
91stt 
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Posted: September 24, 2010 at 5:02 PM / IP Logged  
Check that all of the connections are correct.
Constant 12V = White
Ignition = BLACK / YELLOW (12V does not drop out when in start position)
Starter = BLACK/ White
Ignition 2 = Yellow (12V in ON position only)
Accessory = WHITE/ Black (12V in ACC and ON positions)
Given that the R/S unit does start the engine, I included the constant and starter wires only for completeness. Check that the operation of the wires while remote starting that they operate according to the above descriptions.
This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
sequoia2006 
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Posted: September 24, 2010 at 6:57 PM / IP Logged  
I've read the D4 flash code. It is 8 flashes so it's the same as what the scanner reported. Double checked all the wires and they were correctly connected. There's no Ignition 2 so that is connected to Accessory 2. I am running out of ideas, so frustrated.
91stt 
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Posted: September 24, 2010 at 11:53 PM / IP Logged  
What do you mean no ignition 2?
No car yellow wire or no pink/black on 6501?
Connections should follow this:
Wire ..... OEM Color ...... 6501 Color
Ignition = BLACK / YELLOW --> Pink
Ignition 2 = Yellow --> Pink/Black
Accessory = WHITE/ Black --> Gray
This information is provided only as a reference.
All circuits should be verified with a digital multi-meter prior to making any connections.
sequoia2006 
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Posted: September 25, 2010 at 1:18 AM / IP Logged  
Car does not have Ignition 2 according to this http://www.commandocaralarms.com/wiring/1998-2002/Honda/Accord/666.html.
So the wires are connected as follows:
Wire ------------------------- OEM ------------------ 6501
Ignition 1 ---------------- BLACK / YELLOW -------------Pink
Starter (starter side) -----BLACK/ White -------------Violet
Starter (key side) ---------BLACK/ White -------------Yellow
Accessory 1 ---------------- Yellow ----------------- Gray
Accessory 2 ---------------- WHITE/ Black ------------ Pink/Black
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