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is200_turbo 
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Posted: December 05, 2010 at 10:47 AM / IP Logged  
HI all
Does anyone know what the power consumption is of the following items
Clifford Avantguard 5.5
When in standby....
When Armed.....
When Triggered
Clifford Callguard
When in standby
When Active
DEI 530T
when in standby
battery is going flat in under 3 weeks of inactivity
chev104275 
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Posted: December 05, 2010 at 12:43 PM / IP Logged  
Do a parasitic draw test on the electrical system using a DMM. Start unplugging stuff till the draw goes away. Start with the items mentioned .      As a rule of thumb .05A is normal
If i Can't Install it    I Don't need it   Joe
is200_turbo 
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Posted: December 05, 2010 at 1:43 PM / IP Logged  
I have done an overall draw test on the system and it seems high when armed but i have lots of after-market electrical in there so was looking for key items to start with and then work back from that unplugging etc
howie ll 
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Posted: December 05, 2010 at 5:19 PM / IP Logged  
The UK versions don't provide power consumption, the 5.5 is the UK Cat 1 version of the US market 5.1.
Alarm 20ma standby , 30ma armed (the LED accounts for most of it, since on UK spec units there's passive immobilisation, hence the LED still flashes).
Triggered about 2.5 amps max.
Callguard: most trackers use about 30ma. Never had to measure it!
530t NIL
I/Start V if fitted, NIL
3 weeks of inactivity? wth do you expect!!
What car?
How old is the battery?
Assuming no poorly wired amps, and short of a parasitic draw test as mentioned above plus a drop test I'm guessing your battery is going home.
NO battery will last more than about 10 days, even new with that load on top of the normal draw.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 05, 2010 at 5:21 PM / IP Logged  
Toyota sealed for life batteries don't like that anyway, they aren't deep cycle batteries.
oldspark 
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Posted: December 05, 2010 at 6:44 PM / IP Logged  
Cranking batteries are never deep cycle batteries!
FYI - 2 different sorts of battery construction.
FYI (cont'd) And for deep cycle AGMs that are good crankers, they aren't - all AGMs provide high currents (compared to wet cells) due to their lower internal resistance. Hence they may be good at providing cranking currents - but that doesn't mean it is good for the AGM battery.
And not that 20mA LEDs should consume anywhere near 20mA (they should be pulsed for lower power consumption), and whilst 12mA is what "S&L" Bosch alternators draw when not charging, a few weeks of that is more than many vehicles tolerate.
Think of it as 1/10th to 1/20th of a dome light, and many vehicles only handle that for about a day.
howie ll 
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Posted: December 06, 2010 at 3:05 AM / IP Logged  
I think you got the wrong end of what I was saying Peter.
I borrowed Idiot's crystal ball and guessed it may be a Toyota/Lexus.
In the UK (where this alarm combo is sold) they use sealed batteries from new.
This battery because it keeps running flat is being used effectively as a deep cycle, hence damaging it.
oldspark 
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Posted: December 06, 2010 at 3:24 AM / IP Logged  
I was worried it would read like that.... (sorry!)
It was meant as agreement with some added useless-factoring.
(ie batteries are EITHER deep-cycle ELSE high-current)
I added the AGM FYI in case "sealed" meant AGM/VRLA as opposed to GelCel or "semi-sealed" or nee-no-maintenance now known as low-maintenance (at least in countries with Consumer Protection).
Not that AGM or wet makes any difference to how long it will hold under load...
is200_turbo 
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Posted: December 08, 2010 at 1:42 PM / IP Logged  
Its running on a non standard battery its a varta E44 77ah battery
is200_turbo 
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Posted: December 08, 2010 at 1:47 PM / IP Logged  
oh battery was about a month old purchased due to old one going flat
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