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1998chevy1500 
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Posted: April 22, 2003 at 10:27 PM / IP Logged  
I have a pair of 10" Rockford Fosgate Power HX2 in a 1998 chevy ext cab and am trying to find the right amp for them.
the subs are dual 2 ohm voice coil. 1000 watts RMS 2000 Peak
i am using a MTX 6500D right now with the voice coils wired in series and the subs in parallel giving me a 2 ohm load so they are getting 250 watts each
i can not decide what to get for an amp. here are my thoughts. any other ideas would be appreciated.
1. get a MTX81000D wired to 2 ohms giving 500 watts to each sub
2. get a MTX Thunder942 (2x470@2ohms W/ 14.4V or 1x940@4ohms W/14.4V) wire the voice coils in parallel with each sub on its own channel
3. get a RF 1050S (2x525@2ohms W/ 14.4V or 1x1050@4ohms W/14.4V)wire the subs the same as the MTX 942
the two MTX amps use a 150 amp fuse and the RF only uses a 100amp fuse.
is the RF amp that much more efficient or is the MTX underated
the second two amps are not class D will I have to worry about them getting to hot, less efficient, ect.
the MTX have a 0/1 ga. input but the RF is only 4 ga. will this make a difference
sorry about the length of the post but i wanted to make sure all the questions were answered
thankx in advance
Conrad Jacobsen
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Posted: April 22, 2003 at 11:41 PM / IP Logged  
You are seriously underpowering those subs. To get the most out of them, you would need an amp that pushed close to 2000RMS x1, or 1000RMS x 2.
If you are only planning on throwing apx 500 watts to each sub, I'd return the subs for a pair of RFD2110 Punch HX2's and save some money. They're 1 step down from the RFR3110 Power HX2's that you currently have. They are still 2ohm DVC's, but run 500RMS 1000Peak. IMO they would be a better match for any amp that was pushing 1000x1 @ 2ohms or 500x2 @ 4ohms.
If you're set on what you have, based on your choices I'd suggest the MTX81000D. Reasons why...
1) You have Two 2ohm DVC subs, which means you can wire 1 sub per channel @ 4ohms, or bridge 2 subs per channel @ 2ohms (I'm not going into the 0.5, 1, or 8ohm configurations).
2) Based on that, the RF 1050S will only give you 262.5 x 2 @ 4ohms (you can't wire for the 525 x 2 @ 2ohms or 1050 x 1 @ 4ohms since you have Two 2ohm DVC subs)
3) The MTX Thunder942 will only give you 175 x 2 @ 4ohms (again because you can't wire for the 350 x 2 @ 2ohms or 700 x 1 @ 4ohms since you have Two 2ohm DVC subs)
4) That leaves the MTX 81000D. You can get the 1000 x 1 @ 2ohms (but can not get the 500 x 1 @ 4ohms since you have Two 2ohm DVC subs). So you're looking at apx. 500 watts per sub, which is the most out of the 3 available options you gave.
I'm not sure about MTX, but I know RF amps have a high tendency to outperform their specs, and I believe are usually 70-75% efficient at the least.
MTX and RF make quality amps. As long as there is enough airflow around the class AB amps, then you will not have to worry about them getting too hot when bridged.
Go with the manufactures recommended gauge (or lower if you can get away with it). If it calls for 0/1 gauge, use it along with 0/1 ground. Same for the 4 gauge. For example, some amps say use 4 gauge, but will accept as large as 2. Feed it what you can (but do not use a smaller gauge wire though! I mean don't run an 8 gauge power wire when it calls for at least 4).
The main difference between Class AB and Class D amps is Stereo vs. Mono wiring capabilities.
BTW, did you upgrade your trucks electrical system to 14.4volts? All the specs I posted were based off of the 12volt specs from the manufacturer's sites, I noticed yours were based off of 14.4v.
Here's the wiring options you have for 2ohm DVC's...
Best one for a class D amp (or class AB 2-channel amp bridged to 1 channel) that is 2ohm stable using 2 2ohm DVC subs
amp for Power HX2 - Last Post -- posted image.
Other Mono/bridged configurations for 2 2ohm DVC subs
amp for Power HX2 - Last Post -- posted image.
amp for Power HX2 - Last Post -- posted image.
Best one for a Class AB 2-channel amp using 2 2ohm DVC subs (1 sub per channel, or only running 1 sub per mono amp)
amp for Power HX2 - Last Post -- posted image.
Other Class AB 2-channel amp configuration using 2 2ohm DVC subs (1 sub per channel, or only running 1 sub per mono amp)
amp for Power HX2 - Last Post -- posted image.
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corrin50 
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Posted: April 23, 2003 at 10:37 AM / IP Logged  
look into the orion 275 hcca amp redone   good luck      art
1998chevy1500 
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Posted: April 23, 2003 at 3:54 PM / IP Logged  
i was leaning twards the MTX 942 with it bridged to two ohms (yes i know that it is only stable to 4) because in theory it should produce 2000 watts bridged into 2 ohms and i can get it for about $100 cheaper that the RF (i am a MTX fan)
any thoughts on it?
thankx
Conrad Jacobsen
tom small 
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Posted: April 23, 2003 at 7:53 PM / IP Logged  

use the mtx 8100d with 1gauge power wire.

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