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python 991 for 94 toyota celica gt


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sape33 
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Posted: August 11, 2011 at 9:19 AM / IP Logged  
Ok now Im going to install a python 991. I found the wiring for this celica but is not the same in my car so
1994 Toyota Celica Alarm, Remote Starter, Keyless Entry Wiring Information
Constant 12V+     White      Ignition Switch Harness
Starter      BLACK/ White      Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition      Blue/Orange      Ignition Switch Harness
Ignition 2      Blue/Red      Ignition Switch Harness
Tach      WHITE/ Blue      Or Black (-) at Diagnostic Connector or Igniter
Brake Switch      GREEN / WHITE      Brake Switch
Trunk Pin      RED / Green (-)      Driver's Kick Harness
Parking Lights      Green      Dimmer or Fuse Panel
Door Trigger      RED / White (-)      Driver's Kick Panel
Door Lock      Blue (-)      Door Lock Module right of Steering Column
Door Unlock      Blue/Red (-)      
Ignition in my Celia is BLACK/ orange not blue/orange.
Door unlock says blue/red my car is blue/black.
Rear defrost/defogger. is RED / white. connector behind defrost switch.
I still can't find Trunk pin wire is supposed to be RED / green. I went all the way to the trunk and is RED / white. I remember when I intalled on my 2000 honda passport trunk pin wire went to dome light first then returned in a diferent color. Im wonder if is the same case here.
Also there is no hood pin. I was thinking in going to the yunk yard and removed from another car and adapt it to this one.
Today Im going to find Neutral wire which is going to be by emergency brake switch.
Ok its 9:15 here in Minnesota and Im going back to work on my car. I hope when I return everything is working.
sape33 
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Posted: August 14, 2011 at 3:35 PM / IP Logged  
ok ignition wires are BLACK/ red
   ignition 2 BLACK/ orange
   acc is gray
I couldn't wait to try if it works so I plugged everything to see if it works.
I still need to wire trunk pin
      hood pin
       tach wire
       siren wire
      and brake wire
The alarm works. door locks and unlocks, supervision light works.
parking lights still doesn't work might be (+) Im using (-) rigth now.
Remote starter. Starts the car after like 10 or 15 seconds shuts down, then start againg. It does it a few times and shut down engine. control shows start error.
I haven't use bitwriter yet.
I haven't wire tach wire neither.
Any suggestions?
co_ne_dub 
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Posted: August 16, 2011 at 8:02 AM / IP Logged  
1994 Toyota Celica      
     
     
Remote Start
     
     
Item     Wire Color     Polarity     Wire Location
12 Volt   White & BLACK/ Red +            Ignition Harness
Second 12 Volts          +     
Starter      Violet/White     +            Ignition Harness
Second Starter               
Ignition     BLACK/ Orange     +     Ignition Harness
Second Ignition               
Third Ignition               
Accessory     Blue/Red     +     Ignition Harness
Second Accessory               
Third Accessory               
Keysense               
Data Bus               
Can Bus High               
Can Bus Low               
Can Bus Sw               
Power Lock     Blue/Black     -     Driver's Kick Panel
Power Unlock     Blue & Green     -     Driver's Kick Panel
     Both wires must be connected for unlock. Isolate with 2 IN4001 diodes
Lock Motor               
Driver Unlock Motor               
Parking Lights (-)               
Parking Lights (+)     Green     +     On Fuse Panel
Hazards               
Turn Signal (Left)               
Turn Signal (Right)               
Headlight               
AutoLights               
Reverse Light               
Left Front Door Trigger               
Right Front Door Trigger               
Left Rear Door Trigger               
Right Rear Door Trigger               
Dome Supervision     RED / White     -     On Fuse Panel
Trunk/Hatch Pin     RED / White or RED / Green     -     At Light in Trunk
Rear Glass Pin               
Hood Pin               
Trunk/Hatch Release     Manual release          
Trunk Release Motor     Manual release          
Fuel Door Release               
Power Sliding Door (Left)               
Power Sliding Door (Right)               
Factory Alarm Arm               
Factory Alarm Disarm               
Disarm No Unlock               
Trunk Alarm Shunt               
Tachometer     Gray & Black          At Igniter on back of engine
Wait to Start               
Neutral Safety               
Clutch Pedal               
Fuel Pump               
Rear Defroster               
Mirror Defroster               
Left Front Heated Seat               
Right Front Heated Seat               
Speed Sense               
Brake Wire     GREEN / WHITE     +     At Switch Above Brake Pedal
Parking Brake               
Horn Trigger               
Wipers               
Memory Seat 1               
Memory Seat 2               
Memory Seat 3               
Did your Python 991 not come with a hood pinswitch in the box?
Parking light are positive. IIRC the 991 has a jumper to change polarity under a cover that slides off.
I would go back and be SURE that your connections are correct and soldered. Especially your heavy gauge wires.
sape33 
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Posted: August 20, 2011 at 3:14 PM / IP Logged  
Yes python 991 came with a hood pin. Is it to trigger alarm also? or just to shut down alarm when hood is open?
Yes I did change the fuse to the positive side (+) but lights still doesn't work.
Like you said Im going back to double check my connections and make sure everything is right.
python has a second ignition wire (ign 2). Does it go to Ignition 1 (BLACK/ orange) also?
Right now I have ignition 2 wired to (BLACK/ red) on ign switch.
Car starts, runs for like 20 seconds then shuts down, then start again runs another 20 sec and shuts down.
thanks for the wire list.
co_ne_dub 
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Posted: August 20, 2011 at 11:17 PM / IP Logged  
I would just connect ignition 1 and isolate the un-needed ignition2.
The hood pinswitch is a safety measure for the remote start portion.
It will ground out when the hood is open and not let the remote start operate.
Are you using a DMM to test your wires?
Find a green wire on the front of your fuse box like the list says, attach your positive lead to it, turn on your parking lights. If it goes to between 11-12 volts, thats your parking light wire.
sape33 
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Posted: September 01, 2011 at 6:53 PM / IP Logged  
ok Im still having trouble with this python 991
H3/1 Pink (+) Ignition 1---- wired to BLACK/ orange
H3/2 RED / white (30A) fused---wired to white
H3/3 Orange (+) Acc output---wired to blue/red
H3/4 Violet (+) Starter------wired to car side of violet/white
H3/5 Green (+) Starter------wired to key side of Violet/white
H3/6 Red    (+) Ign. Input---wired to white 12v+
H3/7 Pink/white (30) Flex relay output -----??
H3/8 Pink/Black (87a) flex relay input------ not used
H3/9 RED / Black Accesoty/Starter relay input (30A) fused--wired to White
H3/10 NC (No connection)
Car Starts, runs for 10 seconds then it dies, then does it again and againg. H3/7 Pink/white (30)flex relay output. I have no idea where this one goes.
Alarm:
I had to run a wire from trunk switch to the alarm (RED / white didn't work for me).
sape33 
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Posted: September 01, 2011 at 7:43 PM / IP Logged  
Do I need to isolate Ignition Wire?
H3/8 PINK/BLACK 87a OF IGNITION 2 FLEX RELAY
This wire is used when an ignition switch isolation on the vehicle is necessary
This is common on Toyota and Nissan's which require the use of Tech Tip document
#1077. (See Menu #3, Feature #8, for programming options).
So that means that I have to cut ignition 1 wire (BLACK/ orange) in half then wire pink/black to key side and pink/white to vehicle?
co_ne_dub 
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Posted: September 01, 2011 at 9:31 PM / IP Logged  
I would not cut any wires UNLESS you are doing the starter kill.
When you say it runs for ten seconds and then shuts down, that signals a tach wire issue.
Is your tach wire hooked up?
If not I would highly recommend you do so.
On the Toyotas that I have done, I have not had to cut ignition wires.
Maybe someone else can comment?
sape33 
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Posted: September 01, 2011 at 9:41 PM / IP Logged  
tach is not wired. I wanted to use virtual tach. Does anybody know how to reset virtual tach? Manual said Bitwriter can't so.
Another thing is that Heater fan doesn't work for those 10 seconds.
Should I wire pink/white wire and orange wire to accesoty wire together?
Manual says it can be program for a ignition 2 or accesory wire(pink/white)
co_ne_dub 
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Posted: September 02, 2011 at 6:37 AM / IP Logged  
Read your manual. Page 35 and 36 tell you how to reset Virtual Tach.
Did you test your accessory wire?
You have it listed as being gray, but you connected the orange wire to blue/red?      
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