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howie ll 
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x 2 with Mr. I look at the diagram again. And forget about locking the doors when you go into gear, you would either need an auto with a warning light for each gear like Honda or Mitsubishi and a relay with timer e.g. DEI 528t, or if manual a Hall effect switch or microswitch at the gear shift, good luck with that one!
Or a clutch switch if manual.
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i am an idiot wrote:
You do not need a relay for domelight supervision.  If your vehicle needs negative, you ground one of the 2 associated wire, then use the other wire to give yoiu ground out for the vehicle.  Chances are, you applied positive voltage to the wire.
When you say, use the other wire.   There are 2 wires, the blue / YELLOW   and the fused blue/red.
If I hook the blue / YELLOW to ground, the blue/red outputs 12v.
Are you saying to swap them? Because I tried that, and the blue/red blue the fuse when I did that.
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howie ll wrote:
Red N/O started MUST be joined to an ignition wire that stays live during cranking: TEST
In fact that's an obligatory connection otherwise you could turn on the alarm whilst driving.
Then from the relay, cut the starter wire, red to key side and RED / yellow to starter side.
Don't use RED / white. You can but I prefer the extra safety of normally closed.
So the Red N/O during starting is 12V and nothing any other time correct?
When you say extra safety of the normally closed, what do you mean?
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Normally closed means you will still be able to start the car if the alarm fails.
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Have you read the instructions? The auto lock doesn't work for the first 30 seconds so connecting to the gearshift isn't relevant.
Also the blue/red should be grounded and the blue / YELLOW to the door trigger, though don't forget this alarm is X years old.
So the red N/O during starting is 12v+ and nothing any other time?
Are you actually reading this or listening to what I said which was;-
Red N/O wire must be connected to an ignition wire which stays LIVE during cranking"
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howie ll wrote:
Have you read the instructions? The auto lock doesn't work for the first 30 seconds so connecting to the gearshift isn't relevant.
Also the blue/red should be grounded and the blue / YELLOW to the door trigger, though don't forget this alarm is X years old.
So the red N/O during starting is 12v+ and nothing any other time?
Are you actually reading this or listening to what I said which was;-
Red N/O wire must be connected to an ignition wire which stays LIVE during cranking"
What's with the attitude?
I had some final clarifying questions, sorry if I was upsetting you.
Yes I have read the wiring diagram but was having difficultly understanding where to tap into my car. I thought it would be best to make double sure before actually cutting anything. Maybe there was someone else on this forum who has a Camaro and knows exactly the colors of the wires on the car and where to locate them.
Thought that was what this forum was for, to ask questions and get help before when you're in doubt.
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Have you read the instructions? The auto lock doesn't work for the first 30 seconds so connecting to the gearshift isn't relevant.[/quote]
I know this, but was just wondering if the gear selector was possible. It was just a question, maybe someone had done this before. I have this feature on my truck and it's nice.   You can warm the truck up, while waiting for the passengers etc.   If it's not possible no biggie, but no reason to get an attitude.
Mods, just delete this thread.   
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Sorry if I came on a bit hard but what Mr. I said about the dome supervision was correct, it appeared that you weren't listening or hadn't noticed the 30 second locking.
What you said about your truck is probably correct but as I pointed out installing the means to do this as a retro-fit is beyond most people.
I'll try and post the DEI instructions for this vehicle, let you know if I succeeded in a few minutes.
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Look at the Downloads/Manuals section search as 1992 Chevrolet Camaro.
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Initially, did you have the blue/red or the blue / YELLOW connected to a positive 12volt source?   That pair of wires control the domelight supervision.  If your vehicle needs positive voltage to illuminate the domelight, you would connect one of these wires to a positive voltage source, then connect the other wire to the vehicle's positive domelight trigger wire.

Since your vehicle requires ground to illuminate the domelight, you need to ground one of those wires and connect the other wire to the white wire that can be found at either of the 2 pinswitches located in the door jamb.

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