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capi 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 7:47 AM / IP Logged  

howie ll wrote:
ALARM     CAR     LOCATION
6P
Brown     BLACK/ red     Fuse junction box left of steering column or ignition loom
Red     Thick white     Ditto
Black     Grounding Bolt     Any M6 (10mm) bolt to body nr to above, use a ring terminal
12P
Yellow     Grounding bolt     Join to above
Yellow/black     Ditto     Ditto
White*     BROWN / white     Kick panel or fuse junction box LOCK (-) Alt. Blue/red
WHITE/ black*     GREEN / WHITE     Ditto UNLOCK (-) Alternative Blue.
Brown     GREEN / WHITE     Steering column loom
Brown     GREEN/ YELLOW     Ditto
RED / Black Don’t use unless you find the motor wire**
TEST EVERYTHING!!!!
The factory diagrams are over complicated and the install diagram is a joke!
There appears to be no hood (bonnet) pin input either.
In all honestly I could have tested for and done the wiring in less time than it took me to produce this.
*The install diagram doesn’t specify which one is lock and which is unlock!
** Won’t work the RED / yellow car wire, that’s NEG.
If an electric (solenoid) trunk (boot) release is factory fitted, take the red and black to the motor (+) wire.
Very poor product, no provision for NEG trunk release or NEG indicators which would be much easier on your car, light green at the Hazard switch.
Give Modric back to us.

Incredible!!!! You told me the color of the wire in my car, and the location.

My doubts:

- Is necessary the wire brown ON If I do not use remote start?

- In 12P the White* and WHITE/ black* I received a diagram where appear what is for lock and what is for unlock.

- The brown, where is the Steering column loom ? Below the wheel?

- The RED / black if you have not found... Neither do I.

- Why say:  There appears to be no hood (bonnet) pin input either? Told you the siren?

- In 8P, Is the trigger of side door NEG? I have to check with a multimeter what of both wire in the coretesy is NEG, is true?

- In 8P, I will NOT connect the Engine cut off, crystal up (my car has not package confort), the brake, hand brake, start sensing. Is it correct?

- What is the best way to connect the wire? Cut and insulating tape or this --> https://imageshack.us/f/471/robacorrientesug1.jpg/

 

Thanks in advance,

regards,

howie ll 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 8:01 AM / IP Logged  
You won't control it properly without the brown connected.
The diagram toy sent doesn't say which is which. If you test those wires with the alarm's remote, that will tell you which is which.
If you remove the steering wheel cowling (cover) what you see is the steering column loom, probably also at the fuse/relay box.
Bonnet pin tells you if the bonnet is open. What does that have to do with the siren?
All the triggers on this car are NEG.
Don't get involved with the engine cut off, not needed. All European cars since 1/1/97 have factory transponder immobilisers.
Strip, solder after testing and verification then good quality insulating tape over the join.
NEVER, ever use those connectors they will corrode or shake loose within 3 months.
howie ll 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 8:02 AM / IP Logged  
I wish you all the best of luck.
Your knowledge/experience is poor.
The product is awful.
Not a good combination.
capi 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 8:23 AM / IP Logged  

howie ll wrote:
You won't control it properly without the brown connected.
The diagram toy sent doesn't say which is which. If you test those wires with the alarm's remote, that will tell you which is which.
If you remove the steering wheel cowling (cover) what you see is the steering column loom, probably also at the fuse/relay box.
Bonnet pin tells you if the bonnet is open. What does that have to do with the siren?
All the triggers on this car are NEG.
Don't get involved with the engine cut off, not needed. All European cars since 1/1/97 have factory transponder immobilisers.
Strip, solder after testing and verification then good quality insulating tape over the join.
NEVER, ever use those connectors they will corrode or shake loose within 3 months.

ok, thanks!!! I think, I have all clear.

The problem could be my language English... I am not consider with poor knowledge/experience.

If I have any problem, I will tell to you.

Thanks!!!

Regards,

howie ll 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 9:14 AM / IP Logged  
Your English is better than many North Americans on this site.
I don't say anything in case English is not their first language.
Try to cut and paste to either word or Chrome files and see if there is a translation program.
capi 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 9:54 AM / IP Logged  

In 8P, what is the utility of the brake, hand brake, start sensing. I will not connect, is it ok?

Thanks in advance,

Regards,

howie ll 
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Posted: February 14, 2013 at 9:56 AM / IP Logged  
Not needed, for remote start only.
capi 
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Posted: February 17, 2013 at 7:15 AM / IP Logged  
Hi howie II,
I need more help... Yesterday, I started with the installation and the Fuse junction box left of steering column is very very difficult access to the box; and
- positive and negative, I will get directly from battery.
- STR I will not connect, seems not necessary if I do not want the remote start; I spoke with some people and they did not connected.
- where can I get the intermittent? In the fuse junction is very difficult, and only work with the contact... can I get from the warnings or directly from the intermittent? How can connect it?
- the shock sensor and microwave should be horizontal or they can be vertical?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
howie ll 
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Posted: February 17, 2013 at 10:06 AM / IP Logged  
You can pick up those wires in the steering column loom as well.
White or WHITE/ red at fuse box or steering column loom for (+).
A nearby bolt for (-).
Intermittent??? What do you mean?
Shock sensor doesn't matter, microwave horizontal in roof lining.
capi 
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Posted: February 17, 2013 at 10:42 AM / IP Logged  
howie ll wrote:
You can pick up those wires in the steering column loom as well.
White or WHITE/ red at fuse box or steering column loom for (+).
A nearby bolt for (-).
Intermittent??? What do you mean?
Shock sensor doesn't matter, microwave horizontal in roof lining.
Sorry, but I don not understand...
I am not sure, what is steering column loom and Fuse junction box left of steering column? Where is each of them? I check under the wheel... what is the other site?
The positive and negative I have clear, directly from the battery.
The intermittent = flash light.
microwave horizontal doubts, spy f10s alarm - Page 2 -- posted image. with the orange direction to the floor or to the roof?
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
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