2011 Kia Optima SX, Viper 5101, EVO All

I believe I have everything correct except 2 of the bypass wires. Not sure if I need the foot brake connection(I'm assuming it means the parking brake). Also the tach wire, does it need to be connected with the RS tach wire or instead of?

Vehicle: 2011 Kia Optima SX (Push button start)
Remote Start Unit: Viper 5101
Bypass Module: Fortin Evo-All
Alarm / Remote Start / Bypass Unit			Vehicle
Connection	Color	Description	Color	Location:
Main Harness (H1) 12 pin
H1/1	RED / White	(-)200mA Trunk release output		Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; yellow/black)
H1/2	Red	(+)12VC Constant input		Connect to RED / white (H3/2) between unit and fuse
H1/3	Brown	(-)200mA Horn honk output	White	Driver kick, white 43 pin plug, pin 42
H1/4	WHITE/ Brown	Light Flash Insolation Wire		NO CONNECTION
H1/5	Black	(-)Chassis ground		Connect to factory ground bolt
H1/6	Violet	(+) Door trigger input		NO CONNECTION
H1/7	Blue	Factory horn input		NO CONNECTION
H1/8	Green	(-) Door Trigger		Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; green)
H1/9	BLACK/ White	(-) 200mA Dome light output		NO CONNECTION
H1/10	WHITE/ Blue	(-) Remote Start/Turbo timer activation output		NO CONNECTION
H1/11	White	Parking light output	Pink	Headlight switch, white 13 pin plug, pin 1
H1/12	Orange	(-)500mA ground when armed output		NO CONNECTION
Door Lock 3 pin- NOT USED
1	Blue	(-)500mA unlock output		NO CONNECTION
2		Empty
3	Green	(-) 500mA Lock output		NO CONNECTION
H2 Harness 18 pin
H2/1	Light GREEN/ Black	(-) 200mA Factory alarm disarm output		Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; purple / white)
H2/2	ORANGE / Black	(-) 200mA Aux 4 output		NO CONNECTION
H2/3	GREEN / WHITE	(-) 200mA Factory alarm arm output		Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; purple)
H2/4	Violet/Black	(-) 200mA Aux 2 output		NO CONNECTION
H2/5	WHITE/ Black	(-) 200mA Aux 3 output		NO CONNECTION
H2/6	WHITE/ Violet	(-) 200mA Aux 1 output		NO CONNECTION
H2/7	Gray/Black	(-) Diesel wait to start input		NO CONNECTION
H2/8		Empty
H2/9	Violet/White	Tachometer input	Gray	Driver kick, White 43 pin plug, Pin 4
H2/10	Dark Blue	(-) 200mA Status output		Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; dark blue)
H2/11	Pink/White	(-) 200mA Flex relay control output		NO CONNECTION
H2/12	ORANGE / Black	(-) 200mA Accessory output		NO CONNECTION
H2/13	Purple	(-) 200mA Starter output		NO CONNECTION
H2/14	Pink	(-)200mA Ignition 1 output		NO CONNECTION
H2/15	Gray	(-) Hood input (nc or no)	Green	Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; pink / black)
H2/16	Blue/White	(-) 200mA 2nd status/rear defogger output		NO CONNECTION
H2/17	Brown	Brake shutdown input	Green	Driver kick, White 43 pin plug, Pin 24 or 31
H2/18	BLACK/ White	(-) Neutral saftey input		Connect to black (H1/5) wire
Remote Start (H3) 8 pin
H3/1	Pink	Ignition 1 input/output	Pink	Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug(E), pin 26 (see bypass diagram)
H3/2	RED / White	(+) Fused ignition 2/Flex relay input 87	Red	Dash fuse box, 3 pin, pin 1 (see bypass diagram)
H3/3	Orange	Accessory output	Orange	Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug(E), pin 14 (see bypass diagram)
H3/4	Violet	Starter output	Gray	Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug (E) (see bypass diagram)
H3/5	Red	(+) Fused ignition 1 input	Red	Connect with red / white (H3/2) wire
H3/6	Pink/White	Ignition 2/flex relay output		NO CONNECTION
H3/7	Pink/Black	flex relay input 87a key side(if req.) of flex relay		NO CONNECTION
H3/8	RED / Black	(+) fused accessory/starter input	Red	Connect with red / white (H3/2) wire
Fortin Evo Can
5 Pin Connection
1		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
2	Gray/Black	Can Low	Yellow	Dash fuse box (see bypass diagram)
3	Gray	Can High	White	Dash fuse box (see bypass diagram)
4	ORANGE / Brown	Can 2 Low	Yellow	OBDII, Pin 14 (see bypass diagram)
5	ORANGE / Green	Can 2 High	White	OBDII, Pin 6 (see bypass diagram)
20 Pin Connection
1	Yellow	Ignition		Connect directly to H3/1
2	Purple	Lock/Arm		Connect directly to H2/2
3	PURPLE / White	Unlock/Disarm		Connect directly to H2/1
4	Green	Door Status		Connect directly to H1/8
5		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
6		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
7		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
8	Dark Blue	Ground While Running		Connect directly to remote start auxiliary harness; pin 10 (blue) (H2/10)
9		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
10	Lt Blue/Black	Data	BROWN / Orange	Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug (see bypass diagram)
11	Black	Foot Brake		??
12	Pink	Tachometer		??
13	Yellow/Black	Trunk Release		Connect directly to H1/1
14		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
15	Pink/Black	Hood Status		Connect directly to H2/15
16		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
17		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
18		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
19		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION
20		NO CONNECTION		NO CONNECTION

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Whoa! Sorry, that did not space like I posted it.Just barely smart enough to make it broken.

If I could read any of this the lower brown is the foot brake. BLACK/ white neutral safety to parking brake if a manual, ground if an auto. Sorry I can't read the rest please condense.

Vehicle: 2011 Kia Optima SX PTS    

Remote Start Unit: Viper 5101    Bypass Module: Fortin Evo-All           VehicleConnection  Color Description          Color     Location:Main Harness (H1) 12 pin    H1/1     RED / White (-)200mA Trunk release output              Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; yellow/black)H1/2     Red  (+)12VC Constant input          Connect to RED / white (H3/2) between unit and fuseH1/3     Brown (-)200mA Horn honk output             White    Driver kick, white 43 pin plug, pin 42H1/4     WHITE/ Brown Light Flash Insolation Wire                 NO CONNECTIONH1/5     Black (-)Chassis ground      Connect to factory ground boltH1/6     Violet (+) Door trigger input    NO CONNECTIONH1/7     Blue Factory horn input         NO CONNECTIONH1/8     Green (-) Door Trigger          Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; green)H1/9     BLACK/ White (-) 200mA Dome light output     NO CONNECTIONH1/10     WHITE/ Blue (-) Remote Start/Turbo timer      NO CONNECTIONH1/11     White Parking light output   Pink       Headlight switch, white 13 pin plug, pin 1H1/12     Orange (-)500mA ground when armed output      NO CONNECTION    Door Lock 3 pin- NOT USED    1     Blue      (-)500mA unlock output             NO CONNECTION2 Empty  3     Green   (-) 500mA Lock output    NO CONNECTION    H2 Harness 18 pin    H2/1     Lt GREEN/ Black(-) 200mA Factory alarm disarm output       Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; purple / white)H2/2     ORANGE / Black  (-) 200mA Aux 4 output            NO CONNECTIONH2/3     GREEN / WHITE   (-) 200mA Factory alarm arm output  Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; purple)H2/4     Violet/Black  (-) 200mA Aux 2 output    NO CONNECTIONH2/5     WHITE/ Black   (-) 200mA Aux 3 output              NO CONNECTIONH2/6     WHITE/ Violet  (-) 200mA Aux 1 output               NO CONNECTIONH2/7     Gray/Black   (-) Diesel wait to start input        NO CONNECTIONH2/8       Empty  H2/9     Violet/White      Tachometer input      Gray     Driver kick, White 43 pin plug, Pin 4H2/10     Dark Blue   (-) 200mA Status output            Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; dark blue)H2/11     Pink/White   (-) 200mA Flex relay control output     NO CONNECTIONH2/12     ORANGE / Black  (-) 200mA Accessory output NO CONNECTIONH2/13     Purple   (-) 200mA Starter output    NO CONNECTIONH2/14     Pink    (-) 200mA Ignition 1 output     NO CONNECTIONH2/15     Gray    (-) Hood input (nc or no)     Green    Connect directly to bypass (20 pin connector; pink / black)H2/16     Blue/White   (-) 200mA 2nd status/rear def output   NO CONNECTIONH2/17     Brown       Brake shutdown input  Green    Driver kick, White 43 pin plug, Pin 24 or 31H2/18     BLACK/ White   (-) Neutral saftey input           Connect to black (H1/5) wire     Remote Start (H3) 8 pin    H3/1        Pink Ignition 1 input/output           Pink        Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug(E), pin 26 (see bypass diagram)H3/2     RED / White (+) Fused ignition 2/Flex relay  Red        Dash fuse box, 3 pin, pin 1 (see bypass diagram)H3/3     Orange Accessory output   Orange   Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug(E), pin 14 (see bypass diagram)H3/4     Violet Starter output  Gray         Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug (E) (see bypass diagram)H3/5     Red  (+) Fused ignition 1 input       Red        Connect with red / white (H3/2) wireH3/6     Pink/White Ignition 2/flex relay output            NO CONNECTIONH3/7     Pink/Black flex relay input 87a key side        NO CONNECTIONH3/8     RED / Black (+) fused accessory/starter input         Red        Connect with red / white (H3/2) wire        Fortin Evo Can    5 Pin Connection    1            NO CONNECTION        NO CONNECTION2     Gray/Black          Can Low             Yellow   Dash fuse box (see bypass diagram)3     Gray        Can High White       Dash fuse box (see bypass diagram)4     ORANGE / Brown   Can 2 Low          Yellow      OBDII, Pin 14 (see bypass diagram)5     ORANGE / Green   Can 2 High         White    OBDII, Pin 6 (see bypass diagram)    20 Pin Connection    1     Yellow    Ignition     Connect directly to H3/12     Purple     Lock/Arm     Connect directly to H2/23     PURPLE / White     Unlock/Disarm                    Connect directly to H2/14     Green     Door Status           Connect directly to H1/85        NO CONNECTION            NO CONNECTION6        NO CONNECTION            NO CONNECTION7        NO CONNECTION            NO CONNECTION8     Dark Blue Ground While Running     Connect directly to remote start auxiliary harness; pin 10 (blue) (H2/10)9        NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION10     Lt Blue/Black  Data          BROWN / Orange  Dash fuse box, black 39 pin plug (see bypass diagram)11     Black    Foot Brake  ??12     Pink     Tachometer ??13     Yellow/Black  Trunk Release       Connect directly to H1/114     NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION15     Pink/Black      Hood Status Connect directly to H2/1516     NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION17     NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION18     NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION19     NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION20        NO CONNECTION             NO CONNECTION

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Well that's a lot better.  Forgot to link to info pages...

Evo-All: https://ifar.ca/en/download/7121/preview.html

Vehicle wiring: http://www.readyremote.com/main.asp?action=select&yr=26485&product=Remote Start&make=Kia&model=Optima (Smart Key)

Viper/Python: https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1184

Just barely smart enough to make it broken.

H1/11     White Parking light output        Pink       Headlight switch, white 13 pin plug, pin 1 **Make sure to change the jumper in the unit to (-) parking lights or you could damage the switch. 11     Black Foot Brake        ?? **Connect directly to H2/17. Connection to the vehicle is not required. 12     Pink Tachometer       ?? **Connect directly to H2/9. Connection to the vehicle is not required. If the vehicle does not have a factory hood pin, you will have to add a hood pin and connect it to the H2/15. Make sure to test and verify that the remote start does not work with the hood opened.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

So I finally put this in last weekend and I'm having some issues.  One change I made, I put a relay on the lock wire to use the factory fob to start the car on the second press of the lock button. Everything else is done per the list above.

Once I programmed the RS and Evo-All it worked perfectly.  I reached in and shut it down by depressing the brake, closed the door and tried it again, perfect.  I went for a short drive and about 10 minutes after I got home I tried it again.  It will turn over but not start. Also, depressing the brake would not kill it, it would try and cycle though to start again. I used the toggle switch on the RS to shut it down.  I figured it was probably a loose wire so I opened it up and checked everything again, all looked good.  Reconnected the Evo and ran through the programming again, again worked prefectly for 2 tests (done in less than 1 minute) but when I came back to it after about 10 minutes the same problem.

So I disconnected the Evo again reconnected and reprogrammed, same thing.  Starts the first time but not after it sits for a couple of minutes.  I think the car isn't recognizing the Evo when it won't start because I see on the dash "key not in vehicle"

Looking for possible solution?

Just barely smart enough to make it broken.

I would contact EVO to see if they know of anything. It sounds almost like the BCM is going to sleep and not waking up soon enough. Try it again but this time after waiting 10min or so, press the unlock button first, then lock it again, then try remote starting it. Another option is to wait the 10min then open the driver door, close it, and try starting it. See if either of those help.Kenny

Owner / Technician

KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205