2009 civic mt viper 4104

Installing a viper 4104 with dball2 on my 2009 Civic manual transmission. I can not get it to start. everything works except the autostart. I am wondering if it has something to do with this flex relay? H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT H3/2 RED / WHITE +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY INPUT H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT H3/5 RED +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT H3/6 PINK/WHITE IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY OUTPUT H3/7 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87a (IF REQUIRED) OF FLEX RELAY H3/8 RED / BLACK +12V FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT How am I supposed to hook this up? Ive done autostarts an my blazer and prelude and never had this much of an issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

The Vipers Pink/White Flex relay output should be used for the Civic's Red ACC2 ignition wire.  You will have to set the Vipers

programming for Flex Relay = ACC2.  This shouldn't prevent the Viper remote start attempt.  My guess is the clutch bypass.

Remember that for a manual transmission, you must have the door triggers connected, the Tach wire connected, the Neutral

Safety wire connected to the Parking Brake, be programmed for Tach Mode and successfully completed a Tach Learn.   In D2D mode, most of this is already done.

Additionally, the H3 Red, RED / Black & RED / White wires must be connected to +12V constant.

Soldering is fun!

Ok, a futureshop guy ive been texting said H/2, H/6, and H/8 were no needed. Ill go hoolk them up quick and see what happens.

Everything is hooked up. Changed the setting to acc2, relearned tack just in case. Still nothing. If I hit the starter while started, the unit does nothing. If I do it while car is off I get 7 flashes which should be MTS not set correctly... Im lost now.

With a manual transmission vehicle, there is a specific "Reservation Mode" procedure that must be performed at engine shutdown to enable a remote start-up.  It goes something like this :

Make sure the doors on the vehicle are closed.

Put the transmission in neutral.Press on the brake in the vehicle.Apply the emergency brake.Release the brake.Within 15 seconds activate the remote start from the remote.The parking lights will flash confirming that the remote start is active.Turn off the ignition (the car should stay running when key is turned off).Exit the vehicle.Arm the alarm (the vehicle should shut off when arming the system).

Soldering is fun!

Tried that. Still nothing. There has to be something I messed up. Now its trying to trouble shoot. Im doing w2w so I can add smart start later. H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT     ---blue H3/2 RED / WHITE +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY INPUT   ---white H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT     ----orange H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT     ----yellow H3/5 RED +12V FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT    ----white H3/6 PINK/WHITE IGNITION 2/FLEX RELAY OUTPUT    ----red H3/7 PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87a (IF REQUIRED) OF FLEX RELAY   --N/A H3/8 RED / BLACK +12V FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUT    ---White Is that correct? I find their directions are really poor compared to the compustar ones ive installed. They where straight forward. But also on older vehicles that where auto. Also should the H2/21 be hooked up somewhere? All it says is activation input.

You wired up the door lock and unlock wires on the dball to the car right? I found the easiest place to get them was at the back of the MICU. I tried doing mine without these two wires, and it wouldn't start either. Here's my connections, I hope this helps. 4204 Wiring connections         Main Harness H1 4204 harness     connection      1     red     12v constant input     ignition switch      2     black     Chassis ground     chassis ground      3     brown     Horn Honk, 200mA     horn switch, white 20 pin, pin 10 negative polarity      4     WHITE/ brown     light flash isolation wire - pin 87a of light flash relay     no connection      5     white      pin 30 of light flash relay, set jumper to negative     headlight switch, 12 pin plug, Pin 11      6     orange     500mA ground when armed output     no connection              H2 Auxiliary/shutdown harness         1     pink/white     flex relay control output     no connection      2     BLACK/ white     neutral safety input     parking brake wire (center console)      3     blue/white     rear defogger output     no connection      4     GREEN/ black     factory alarm disarm output d2d 5     RED / white     trunk release output d2d 6     green     door input d2d 7     BLACK / YELLOW     dome light output     no connection      8     empty    9     dark blue     status output d2d 10     pink     ignition 1 output     no connection      11     WHITE/ black     aux 3 output     no connection      12     violet     door input     no connection      13     WHITE/ violet     aux 1 output     no connection      14     violet/black     aux 2 output     no connection      15     ORANGE / black     aux 4 output     no connection      16     brown     brake shutdown input d2d 17     gray     hood pin imput d2d 18     violet / YELLOW     (-) starter output     clutch switch      19     blue     factory horn input     no connection      20     gray/black     diesel wait to start     no connection      21     WHITE/ black     activation input     no connection      22     orange     accessory output     no connection      23     violet/white     tacho input d2d 24     GREEN / WHITE     factory alarm arm input d2d         h3         1     pink     ign 1 input/output     ignition switch      2     RED / white     ignition 2/flex relay input     ignition switch      3     orange     accessory output     ignition switch      4     violet     starter output     ignition switch      5     red     ignition 1 output     ignition switch      6     pink/white     ignition 2/flex relay output     ignition switch (set 2nd accy)      7     pink/black     flex relay input 87a     no connection      8     RED / black     accessory/starter input     ignition switch              door lock 3 pin         1     d2d    2     empty    3     d2d    I used a dball, and wired that according to the install guide.

I hooked up the d2d to try that. Still nothing. Going to call them tomorrow. Thank you for all the help!

Ok, hooked up those 2 wires for the locks. ok... getting somewhere now. open door, close door. Start vehicle, release clutch. remove ebrake, wait, push foot brake, apply ebrake, release foot brake, press autostart button. A/S module clicks 5 times pause 1 click. turn key off engine turns off module slowly clicks 5 times. hit a/s button clicks 7 times.

Bwahahaha... found out the issue... bad autostater... All I have to do is hook up a relay to power the pin with no power.