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howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: February 20, 2014 at 9:40 AM / IP Logged  
Point taken. (Was that a bad pun or not?)
Still got to be less drop than using a wire though.
Test before boxing up.
oldspark 
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Posted: February 20, 2014 at 11:22 AM / IP Logged  
VERY good pun! But it was THREE points - both in (decimal) places & score.
Funny tho how it is not the first time I have seen that "way off" order of magnitude for +12V vehicle resistances.
The last I recall was a the12volt expert (and experienced and clever etc) quoting 1 Ohm.
At the time I was wondering if they were used to domestic AC supplies where 1 Ohm is often the mandated maximum resistance (impedance!!) for a safety/protection earth/ground...
Or if we are so blasé juggling V, A, & Ohms with V, mA & milli-Ohms we sometimes forget the 'milli'...? (ie V=IR etc)
Anyhow...
By "less than a wire" I assume you mean body/chassis?
I agree, but I often hear of "poor body conductivity".
Now whether that is a false belief as opposed to any real experience, or bad or oxidised connections, or some incredibly rusted vehicle...?
Some claim that some body panels have so few (spot) welds etc.
I do find it doubtful that a body else its chassis can be so poorly bonded electrically - except for fiberglass bodies and plastic or balsa chassis (ha ha). But that a chassis is strong metalically yet has poor electrical conductivity? (I wonder what corrosion would result?) Same for monocoque constructions.    
But if in doubt, I'd say use both - ie, use the body/chassis and add a parallel wire. The total resistance can not exceed the lowest resistance of the two.
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: February 20, 2014 at 11:28 AM / IP Logged  
Only came across it once on a very old VW where we were installing an alarm and remote start a colleague had installed it and nothing was happening. I checked it out, found he had grounded it above a kickpanel and the conductivity between that and the battery NEG had vanished. In retrospect that same model suffered from instrument panel gremlins because of bad grounding.
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howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: February 20, 2014 at 11:32 AM / IP Logged  
Also looked at a Mercedes that had returned from an auto body shop with supposedly Mr.Clifford not working.
I actually found NOTHING worked.
Traced back to the (rear mounted) battery, asked the obvious question, "was this a tail end shunt?" Yes how did you know.
Pulled battery grounding bolt, changed it for a new one and scraped off the new paintwork around it down to bare metal.
Immediate result!
Test before boxing up.
dtbingle 
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Posted: February 22, 2014 at 10:38 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for all the info! Successful install. Aside from the fact that I decided to do it in 10F/-6F wind chill weather, it went smoothly. Ran two 4 gauge power wires back to my amps, grounded amps to rear seat brackets, then ran a 4 gauge run from alternator + to battery +, alternator bracket to battery - and then double run of 4 gauge from battery - to chassis. Nothing started on fire and everything works!
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