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Express dball 2 and Viper 5706v Wiring


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howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 2:22 PM / IP Logged  
Either solder the diode across the terminals or when you make your connectors, crimp the diode ends with your connectors, use 1/8" (3.2mm)shrink sleeving over the diodes.
If you still don't follow read up on relays and diodes or archive diode suppression here.
Test before boxing up.
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 2:33 PM / IP Logged  

Here is a link to a nice write-up on relays :  http://www.bcae1.com/relays.htm

About two-thirds the way down is a section on Quenching Diodes for the relays' coil.  Even shows info on relays with built-in quenching diodes and their markings.

Here is a link to a R/S Install Pictorial that shows the quenching diode installation on a standard Bosch style relay harness :  https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=133810&tpn=1&PN=1

Soldering is fun!
thrue1 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 2:48 PM / IP Logged  
I will take your feedback and study.
For the 2nd starter relay is there a way so I don't have to use a diode?
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 4:12 PM / IP Logged  
No. Don't use a diode and watch your H2 section fry.
Test before boxing up.
thrue1 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 4:13 PM / IP Logged  
Is there any way without using diodes? For 2nd starter relay?
thrue1 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 4:19 PM / IP Logged  
freqsounds wrote:
Yes, all three of those wires get connected to +12V constant.
The ignition is controlled through Ignition1 and Ignition2 on the remote start. Your starter wire is a different story.
You have the Starter wire (violet) on the remote start unit. You will need a relay for the car's Starter2.
Pin 85 - Ground
Pin 86 - Starter from alarm (violet)
Pin 30 - Starter 2 on car
Pin 87 - +12V constant - Make sure you install a fuse. 20A should be sufficient.
Never tie both of the starter wires together.
You don't need a DBALL and an iDataLink module. They both do the same thing. You'll have to pick one for your install. ;)
Ok I will use a diode, but just to clarify , in the above post , in this way I still need to use diode ? It was not mentioned in this thread?
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 4:22 PM / IP Logged  
Do try to read and understand what I've already posted here: -
"Except that will cause feedback across the two starters causing problems and fault codes to appear which belies the last comment on the freqsounds post. Wire it thus:-
H2 violet yellow (-) to 85
Fused 30 amps to 86 and 87
2nd starter from 30.
And yes the good old 1N4004 across 85 and 86,
band to 86.
"
Test before boxing up.
thrue1 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 6:32 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, I will do as instructed,
The diodes come In 1N4001 ... 007, what logic was used to select ...0004 diode? I read that higher have more V rating... Please kindly explain...
freqsounds 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 8:19 PM / IP Logged  
I apologize, but I am going to interject here. Thrue1, please create your own thread for this. The objective of controlling the climate control is off topic for this thread.
In addition, vin123, the OP, is getting emails every time someone replies to this thread. I'm sure he's not too thrilled about that, or the fact that it's difficult for him to find the information he needs for his install.
It's not that we don't want to help, but these are the forum rules. If you create a new thread, we will still be glad to help the best we can with this project.
No question is stupid or not worth asking. You were once a noob, right? :)
thrue1 
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Posted: March 02, 2014 at 9:13 PM / IP Logged  
I have created new forum called , 2011 camry and viper 5706v under relay section. Sorry, I agree with your point
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