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mohpro 
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Posted: July 17, 2015 at 3:39 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mohpro
I have an Alpine MRP-F250 4 channel amp powering my speakers and a kenwood kac-9103D amp powering my pair of subwoofers. The mrpf250 puts out 40W RMS per channel for a total of 200W RMS. The kenwood puts out 500W RMS. My question is will 4 gauge wire be the proper size wire for this system? Can i run 4 ga. From the battery to a distro block, then 4 ga. from the distro block to both amps? will this be the right size wire, or.can i run 8 ga. From the distro block to the alpine and 4 ga. From the distro to the kenwood? Pretty sure either above mentioned setup will work but just wanted a second opinion.
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knudsen 
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Posted: July 17, 2015 at 8:33 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote knudsen
Hi Mohpro,
"40W RMS per channel for a total of 200W RMS"
I think that would be:
50W RMS per channel for a total of 200W RMS
or
40W RMS per channel for a total of 160W RMS
That's mute, because either way, you are above 400 watts and below 600 watts on the chart: https://www.the12volt.com/wiring/recwirsz.asp
Minimum size depends on the length of the wire and the amperage (watts/12, but the handy chart shows it in watts so you don't need to divide). The only drawback of larger wire is $$$ and a bit more difficulty in running/routing and terminating the ends. Well, there's also the constant temptation to buy more amps since the fat wire is already installed :D
Presumably, the distributio0n block is over four feet from the battery. In that case you want 4 AWG to the block, then you can use smaller to the amps according to the chart. I would check the pricing, if the amps are close to the distro block, it's probably just as inexpensive to go 4 ga all the way.
Add up you fuse sizes and check the "Power & Ground Cable Specs" chart. You can probably get by with double 8 AWG to the big amp and a single 8 AWG to the smaller one, without the distro block. The drawback of too small is voltage drop, which results it amp output dropping at high volume peaks. I also have a feeling, which is just that, a feeling, that skinny wires can cause or contribute to noise problems.
Remember, Gauge is diameter and area of a circle is not linear to the diameter. In other words, two 8's do not equal one 4. Four 8's would be closer to a 4; two 8's are probably closer to 6 AWG.
Try to get all the grounds you can going to one place, and make it very clean and tight, no paint. Paint over it if you are worried about rust.
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