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demond96 
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Posted: June 22, 2002 at 11:30 PM / IP Logged  

I have three 4ohm dvc 12" woofers 700watts each. One 600watt 2ohm amp.speakers are wired in series(Mono bridged). my question is how can I get more power or deeper crisp clean bass. There is little or no distortion now but I see room for improvement. I don't know much about car audio so please break it down. I don't have much money so my options are limited. I thank you for your time and suggestions, all suggestions greatly appreciated.

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Posted: June 23, 2002 at 12:46 AM / IP Logged  

Hey demond96 , what type of enclosure do you have for these 3 subs ? The type of enclosure will have a direct impact on the sound of the bass you are producing. If you want more bass, what you can do is TRY running the subs in parallel and porting it  or if you want cleaner bass, try to set all your crossover and EQ points to accomodate the car and the enclosure and make a sealed enclosure.

Jeff
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demond96 
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Posted: June 24, 2002 at 2:45 PM / IP Logged  

Thanks Jeff. I now have all three subs parellel and the sound is much more deeper. I still have to shop around for a ported enclosure for three subs that won't hurt my pockets. One last question, is there any other way without changing or modifying my enclosure that  will clean up the bass more.  Again thanks for help.

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Posted: June 24, 2002 at 11:12 PM / IP Logged  
What I suggest to all my customer si s to go for a sealed enclosure if you want a nice clean sound. The slope on a sealed enclosure is so much smoother and drops off very slowly on a graph. The best thing to do is to get rid of the ported box and go for a smaller sealed enclosure for better SQ. This will affect the SPL but not noticably to the ear ( about 3 db ). You can always gain this back by doubling your power output to the subs
Jeff
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GlassWolf 
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Posted: June 25, 2002 at 12:01 AM / IP Logged  
I'd design a better enclosure first, bandpass or isobaric perhaps.. use polyfill, use .75" HDF or MDF, and I'd go with 2 DVC 12" subs, and wire the voice coils in parallel and run a stereo 2-ohm load, or go to 4 12" subs. 3 subs isn't a cood combination for getting peak power from an amp, unless you're using specialty subs like the JL Audio 12W6 6-ohm subs or 3 ohm subs.
Study up on Ohm's Law, learn to calculate simple impedence figures, and go from there. wehn you bridge an amp, it "sees" half the load you really give it, so a DVC sub on a bridged amp would go like this:
2 4-ohm voice coils bridged = 2 ohms
amp = 100 watts * 2 ch @ 4 ohms
amp = 200 watts * 1 ch. bridged @ 4 ohms.
amp in this setup sees *1* ohm and the sub gets theoretically 800 watts (not figuring in efficiency of course)
-GlassWolf
Pioneer Stage-4, Orion, DynAudio, Fi

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