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2020 Ford F-250, Remote Start Info?


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Ween 
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Posted: September 10, 2020 at 7:15 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote Ween
Hi, Would anyone have info (remote start) for a 2020 Ford F250. The vehicle is a regular key, no power locks or windows. Also trying to determine bypass options. Flashlogic and Fortin do not show a solution. They state firmware is for vehicles with power locks and windows. If I have to use a 556U I will.
Thanks in advance.
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Posted: October 01, 2020 at 1:24 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote tonanzith
here's what I have
2020 Ford F-250 - North America
Item     Wire Color     Polarity     Wire Location
12 Volts     Violet/Red (50A)     +     BCM in passenger kick, black 22 pin plug (G), pin 22
Second 12 Volts     Gray/Red (7.5A)     +     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 24
Ground     (chassis ground)          
Ground 2     Black/Violet     -     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 14
Starter Kill     Brown/Green     +     Underhood Fuse Box, 25 pin plug, pin 6
Starter     Blue/White     +     Ignition Switch, black 7 pin plug, pin 7
Ignition     White/Orange     +     Ignition Switch, black 7 pin plug, pin 1
Accessory     Violet/Green     +     Ignition Switch, black 7 pin plug, pin 6
Keysense     Blue/Gray     +     Ignition Switch, black 7 pin plug, pin 5
CAN Bus High     White/Blue (HS CAN)     Data     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 20
CAN Bus Low     White (HS CAN)     Data     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 19
CAN Bus High 2     Gray/Orange (MS CAN)     Data     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 23
CAN Bus Low 2     Violet/Orange (MS CAN)     Data     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 22
CAN Bus High 3     Green/Orange (HS2 CAN)     Data     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 18
CAN Bus Low 3     Gray/Blue (HS2 CAN)     Data     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 17
OBD 12 Volts     White/Red (10A)     +     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 13
OBD Ground     Black/Gray     -     Gateway Module on OBD-Data Link Connector, black 24 pin plug, pin 1
IMMO Data     Blue/White (LIN Bus)     Data     PATS Transceiver on ignition switch, black 4 pin plug, pin 3
Power Lock     Gray/Yellow     -     Door Lock Switch in driver door, 4 pin plug, pin 1 or black 8 pin plug, pin 7
Power Unlock     Violet/Gray     -     Door Lock Switch in driver door, 4 pin plug, pin 3 or black 8 pin plug, pin 8
Lock Motor     Gray/Brown     Reverse     Driver Kick --or-- BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 35
Driver Unlock Motor     Blue/Green     Reverse     Driver Kick --or-- BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 27
Passenger Unlock Motor     Brown/Green     Reverse     BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 32
Factory Alarm Arm     (arms on lock with door open)          
Factory Alarm Disarm     (transponder and ignition)          
Parking Lights     Blue/Gray or Blue/Brown (LF/RF); Blue/Gray (LR/RR)     +     BCM in passenger kick, black 22 pin plug (G), pin 3 (LF/RF); 36 pin plug (C), pin 12 (LR/RR)
Parking Lights -     Gray     -     Headlight Switch, black 16 pin plug, pin 11
Note - Parking Lights -: See Tech Doc 1096
Parking Lights Interrupt     Black/Violet     Cut     Headlight Switch, black 16 pin plug, pin 4
Note - Parking Lights Interrupt: See Tech Doc 1096
Hazards     Brown     -     BCM in passenger kick, black 52 pin plug (B), pin 19
Turn Signal (Left)     Blue/Green (LF); Gray/Orange or Gray/Brown (LR)     +     BCM in passenger kick, black 40 pin plug (F), pin 39 (LF); blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 26 or 24 (LR)
Turn Signal (Right)     Yellow/Blue or Yellow/Violet (RF); Green/Orange or Violet/Orange (RR)     +     BCM in passenger kick, black 40 pin plug (F), pin 38 (RF); blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 52 or 23 (RR)
Headlight     Yellow/Blue     -     Headlight Switch, black 16 pin plug, pin 12
AutoLights     Green     Cut     Headlight Switch, black 16 pin plug, pin 13
Reverse Light     Green/Brown     +     Driver Kick --or-- BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 11
Left Front Door Trigger     Green     - N.C.     Driver Kick --or-- BCM in passenger kick, blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 33
Right Front Door Trigger     White     - N.C.     BCM in passenger kick, blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 21
Left Rear Door Trigger     Green     - N.C.     BCM in passenger kick, blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 46
Right Rear Door Trigger     Yellow     - N.C.     BCM in passenger kick, blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 19
Dome Light     Gray/Violet     +     BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 13
Hood Pin     Brown     - N.C.     BCM in passenger kick, black 40 pin plug (F), pin 14
Trunk/Hatch Release     Brown/Yellow (tailgate release)     -     Tailgate Release Switch, black 6 pin plug, pin 6 --or-- BCM in passenger kick, blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 14
Trunk Release Motor     Green/White (tailgate release)     Reverse     Driver Kick --or-- BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 33
Tachometer     Blue     AC     Customer Access Harness above passenger kick, taped to wiring harness
Wait to Start     (program wait to start timer on remote start)          
Clutch Pedal     Blue/Orange     -     Clutch Switch, 6 pin plug, pin 1
Clutch Pedal 2     Green/Violet     -     Clutch Switch, 6 pin plug, pin 5
Fuel Pump     Violet/Green     +     Driver Fender, white 34 pin plug, pin 14
Rear Defroster     Brown to Brown/Blue     - Latched     Behind Glove Box, white 17 pin plug, pin 2
Mirror Defroster     (same as rear defroster)          
Left Front Heated Seat     (MS CAN)          
Right Front Heated Seat     (MS CAN)          
Speed Sense     Violet/Orange     AC     Customer Access Harness above passenger kick, taped to wiring harness
Brake Wire     Violet/White     +     Brake Switch, white 4 pin plug, pin 4 --or-- BCM in passenger kick, black 22 pin plug (A), pin 1
Parking Brake     White/Violet     -     Parking Brake Switch, black 2 pin plug, pin 1 --or-- BCM in passenger kick, blue 52 pin plug (E), pin 47
Horn Trigger     Green/White (w/o adaptive steering)     -     Steering Column Module, top of column, white 12 pin plug, pin 1 --or-- BCM in passenger kick, black 52 pin plug (B), pin 18
Horn Trigger 2     Violet/Green (with adaptive steering)     -     Horn Switch-Clock Spring, gray 12 pin plug, pin 5 --or-- BCM in passenger kick, black 52 pin plug (B), pin 18
Wipers     (LIN Bus)          
Left Front Window (Up/Down)     Green - Blue     A     Driver Door Module in door, 24 pin plug, pins 13 - 14
Right Front Window (Up/Down)     Gray/Yellow - White     A     Passenger Door Module in door, 24 pin plug, pins 13 - 14
Left Rear Window (Up/Down)     Green/Violet - Brown     A     Left Rear Window Switch, green 8 pin plug, pins 4 - 8
Right Rear Window (Up/Down)     White/Violet - Gray     A     Right Rear Window Switch, green 8 pin plug, pins 4 - 8
Rear Sliding Window Open-Close     Yellow - Violet or Yellow/Orange - Violet/Brown     +     Sliding Window Switch, gray 6 pin plug, pins 3 - 2 --or-- Above Passenger Kick, near firewall, black 59 pin plug, pins 16 - 17
Sun Roof (Open/Close)     Violet/Brown - Yellow/Orange (function with ignition on only)     -     Overhead Console, white 24 pin plug, pins 18 - 20
Memory Seat 1     Violet/White     -     Memory Switch in driver door, black 8 pin plug, pin 5
Memory Seat 2     Yellow     -     Memory Switch in driver door, black 8 pin plug, pin 4
Memory Seat 3     Blue/Orange     -     Memory Switch in driver door, black 8 pin plug, pin 3
Radio 12V     Red     +     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pin 1
Radio Ground     Black/Green or Black/Gray     -     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pin 13
Radio Ignition     Brown/Yellow (delayed accessory)     +     Driver Kick, door harness --or-- BCM in passenger kick, 36 pin plug (C), pin 30
Factory Amp Turn-on     Violet/Red     +     Radio, black 26 pin plug, pin 18
Left Front Speaker (+/-)     White or White/Blue - White/Brown     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 22 - 10
Right Front Speaker (+/-)     White/Violet - White/Orange     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 23 - 11
Left Rear Speaker (+/-)     White/Green - Brown/Yellow     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 21 - 9
Right Rear Speaker (+/-)     Brown/White - Brown/Blue     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 24 - 12
Center Channel (+/-)     Green - Gray/Yellow     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 20 - 8
Left Front Speaker - With Amp     White - White/Brown     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 2 - 10
Right Front Speaker - With Amp     White/Violet - White/Orange     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 6 - 14
Left Front Tweeter - With Amp     Green/Orange - Gray/Orange     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 3 - 11
Right Front Tweeter - With Amp     Violet/Orange - Yellow/Orange     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 7 - 15
Left Rear Speaker - With Amp     White/Green - Brown/Yellow     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 4 - 12
Right Rear Speaker - With Amp     Brown/White - Brown/Blue     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 8 - 16
Center Channel - With Amp     Green - Gray/Yellow     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, gray 16 pin plug, pins 1 - 9
Subwoofer - With Amp     Green/Violet - Gray (coil 1); Violet - Yellow (coil 2)     +,-     Amplifier on driver rear cabin wall, blue 16 pin plug, pins 1 - 9 (coil 1); pins 2 - 10 (coil 2)
Aux. Audio Input Left (+/-)     Blue - Green     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 17 - 6
Aux. Audio Input Right (+/-)     Brown - Green     +,-     Radio, black 24 pin plug, pins 18 - 6
Rearview Camera Video     Green/Blue - Violet/Gray     +,-     Front Control/Display, black 12 pin plug, pins 6 - 12 --or-- SYNC Module/Display, black 54 pin plug, pins 14 - 15
RSE Audio Left (+/-)     Blue - Gray (SYNC audio)     +,-     Radio, black 26 pin plug, pins 12 - 25
RSE Audio Right (+/-)     Violet/Green - Brown/White (SYNC audio)     +,-     Radio, black 26 pin plug, pins 13 - 26
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Ween 
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Posted: October 01, 2020 at 7:08 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote Ween
Thank you!!
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Posted: June 19, 2021 at 9:36 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 12vqwerty
So if adding PW /PDL and need a switched source ,This would be it ? Accessory     Violet/Green     +     Ignition Switch, black 7 pin plug, pin 6 /With no feedback or sending codes?
Truck is 2019 450 -- Standard key no PDL or PW. Items are now installed but I have no acc position and windows are always hot.
Stacy
Ween 
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Posted: June 19, 2021 at 9:50 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote Ween
I'm assuming the installer may have used the white/red at the door harness connector for power? I'd use the accessory lead at column with fuse inline to positive trigger relay. Use the white/red for source (term 30). Accessory power (term 87).
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Posted: June 19, 2021 at 10:09 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote 12vqwerty
So would I find this at the ignition switch? Pull the column cover and go from there? Sometimes I know just enough to get my self in trouble. It took me all day to install these and there are no signs of an installation Molex plugs at the door jam and factory regulators. I will let it so and go pull the cover off and look. Any info you can forward is appreciated. This truck has service or acc wires under the hood, One of them was marked 20A hot, that is where I got my power from but could not find a switched source there. It's not like the old days.
Stacy
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Posted: June 19, 2021 at 10:23 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote Ween
From what info I had at the time, the truck could have power locks and windows. Or manual locks and windows. The front doors would have a module in them for the power accessories. Data bus communication for front doors. Rear doors wired to drivers door. Truck had two connectors at each front door jamb boot. In one I found 12 or 14 gauge battery power and ground, fused at SJB...right kick panel. Used one power for door lock system, the other for remote starter. Didn't use battery feed at column. Drilled through connector housings for pass through for door lock actuator wires. Didn't add door lock switch. Decided against power windows.
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Posted: June 19, 2021 at 10:33 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote Ween
If there was retained accessory power available, I'd use that before tapping into the column wiring. But either way I'd still trigger a relay as the windows probably draw a bit of power.

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