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ViperFreak_01 
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Posted: June 25, 2003 at 8:54 AM / IP Logged  
Hi there,
Came across this forum and decided to throw my 2 cents in. Although new to the program here, I've been working with a professional sound installation company for about 2 years and I must say I agree with most of the postings thus far. The quality of the sound is much more important than how loud it is. Now, don't forget one thing though...you can achieve both, and you don't have to spend $10,000 to do it. You can have great sound quality at incredible db! My friend had 125db inside the cab of his S10 and didn't spend over $400.00 but he compromised SQ to gain SPL. I would try to go with both, however, if I had to choose one over the other, SQ would far outweigh SPL in my opinion...
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Posted: June 25, 2003 at 11:45 AM / IP Logged  
Sound quality is definetaly a harder thing to achieve with a loud system i think. Its so easy to get some good loud bass in a vehicle( hell, buy 2 12's and a 400-500 watt amp and you have spl) but to get the mids and highs to equal out and have the right positioning where it sounds good to all passengers and not just the drivers seat, now thats an accomplishment and wont come too cheap.
ViperFreak_01 
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Posted: June 25, 2003 at 4:27 PM / IP Logged  
that is so true...I have yet to sit in a vehicle which doesn't really matter where you sit you get equal coverage...not to say that it can't be done...I guess most drivers are not concerned with how their system sounds to their passengers... =)
chuck_tempe 
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Posted: June 30, 2003 at 8:02 PM / IP Logged  

i used to judge those stereo contests in the '80's when it was starting out.

remember alpine's car audio nationals??

it's much different now.  i haven't been to a contest lately, but now, i assume, it's just like pro sports.  whoever can spend more money for the 'flash' usually has a leg up on the competition.

it's very interesting to see what installers can perform their magic on installs.  of course, i won't spend that kind of dough on it.   hhhhmmmm, 10 grand for a stereo??

now i've done 10-15 grand for HOME stereos, but that includes whole house music, big screens, equipment, labor costs, etc., etc...

i've recently bought some mb quarts for my truck and it's like hell to try to tune my oeq's with the new speakers.  some songs sound great and other songs makes me scratch my head!!

keep in mind, we have fun and music in common.   me personally, if you don't have both, you might as well be brain dead.

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DaRikster 
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Posted: July 03, 2003 at 11:28 PM / IP Logged  
I feel the same as WVSquirel. Personnally, I listen to many differant types of music and SQ comes in handy when you switch from 50 cent, to Bass 305, to Smashing Pumkins, to a "Best of Jazz" CD.
SPL guys, the one's that are serious, spend just as much time "looking" for those extra Db's as the SQer do looking for that crisp high and tight low note.
Anyone can throw alot of $$$ at an install and get some effect, but it is the true enthusiast that sits up till 2-3 in the morning, tossing in the bed, just trying to get thier own perfect vision of a system figured out. And what better feeling than showing up at a show, comp., or traffic light and having someone else say "Damn, now that sounds GREAT!"
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Posted: July 04, 2003 at 8:03 AM / IP Logged  
By the way, the $10 grand spent on the install I mentioned earlier was not just for equipment.  That included about $5 grand in labor.  It was a 2000 VW Beetle, by the way, and we removed *everything* from the interior, sound-proofed the car, and put it back in with custom fabricated enclosures for the drivers and electronics...  I believe the Zapco and Blaupunkt electronics ran about $3500....
Tfire5 
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one thing that has always impressed me more than bass trying to push me through the window. is a finely tuned system with impressive mid bass, systems that can go through a frequency test and not only be acurate but not miss any frequencies ( audible frequencies of course ) so you can experience the sound not just hear it. of course having the sound stage at the hood of your car is also a plus as well, but a finely tuned sq system well always be more impressive to me than a car with 150+ db
Nhspike 
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Posted: July 05, 2003 at 4:59 PM / IP Logged  

QSPL gets my vote

if that's permitted

:D

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Posted: July 06, 2003 at 12:08 AM / IP Logged  
The two are both great.  It's like comparing men to women.  SPL is like hitting a man in the face.  He's guaranteed to punch you back.  Easy results...if you build the system it's gonna boom.  SQ system is like hitting on a woman.  It takes a lot of work sometimes, but other times you just get lucky and things fall in place.  Unfortunately, SQ systems cost more than women sometimes (if that's possible) and there's nothing you can do about it.  It's like the system has a mind of it's own and steals your money.  But when you get in her (SQ) in the right mood, what a beautiful thing! spl or sq? - Page 3 -- posted image.  SPL and SQ, you can't have one without the other.
Drew   "Fuses are only 10 cents...go for it."
HuskiePJN 
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Posted: July 06, 2003 at 9:10 PM / IP Logged  

Most of my time spent driving is on a hangover... so I definitly side with SQ.  Althought my girlfriend likes to feel the 15's hit nice, long, and low...

Always prefer SQ because it can impress both the guys and the chicks...  Mostly only guys like to stand 50 feet from the car and still feel the SPL pounding.  Both however are still respectable and it is like comparing apples to oranges.

...o0O P.J. O0o...
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