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Remote Start Problem, 2001 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R


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adboll 
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I have a 2001 Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R. It has an ignition switch that applies 12v out on two wires to IC igniter and fuse block when turned to the "ON" position. It also has an input 12v wire from the battery. In addition start is controlled by a starter button. I think I have the starter kill wiring figured out in the diagram posted below, but with two ignition wires going to IC igniter & fuse block, I am not sure how to hook up the remote start option of the alarm. I had the remote start wire (blue) hooked up to the starter solenoid and it would crank, but no ignition due to the ignition circuits not having power. Below is the official wiring diagram for the bike, and a diagram I drew up to show how I am going to hook up the starter kill circuit (need opinion). How can I wire up the remote start where the bike will crank and run while the ignition key is in the "OFF" position? Here are the signals coming from the alarm module: Gray = starter kill relay wire (grounded at all times until alarm is actually tripped), Brown = what seems to be ignition wire - 12v when remote start is engaged and will not leave until remote engine kill is engaged (another alarm feature), Blue = Starter enable wire - 12v when remote start is engaged. I noticed the fuse block does not supply the IC igniter with its signal, that both 12v signals simotaneously come from the igntion switch in the "ON" position. Any suggestions?

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I forgot to add something. How bad is the current drain of the starter kill relays? If the alarm is designed to work with relay normally energized (even when bike is off) will my battery go dead real fast? It is because of this that i came up with the above wiring involving the starter kill circuit of the alarm. That way the starter button has to be engaged before relay will energize, but will also supply the needed 12v for starter enable. If the alarm is tripped then the alarm ground will not be present at the relay and thus the starter will NOT be able to work even if the start button is engaged. What do you think?
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hhhhmmm, never heard on installing a remote starter on a bike before, but i'll try.  first, you must have an alarm that has a remote starter on it or a stand alone starting module.  the module will have a wire that will go to a tach so it senses when to stop cranking.  you will also need to hook a wire to the neutral switch, that way the module will know it's not in gear.  if it is in gear, your inviting disaster.  most alarms have starter kills that do not energize the relays until the alarm is tripped.  if they are engaged all the time, your battery isn't going to last for more than a couple of days.

i could not tell whether your alarm had the starter feature built in, but if it doesn't you will need one that does.  i hope i helped you out some.

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Ok, first off I will start by stating that your diagrams are illegible, at least on my pc. Remote start on a motorcycle is easy to do. The main wires you will need to find are the main power/12V, ignition, brake light trigger, and the nuetral light trigger(if your bike has one). The ignition for your bike would include the wire for the computer, and fuel pump if the bike had one. As far as installing tach, I personally would not use tach and would use an alarm that has voltage sensing for the bike. As far as current draw for the starter kill relay is concerned, I would wire up a four wire starter kill consisting of ground when armed, ign, and the starter wire, that way the relay won't energize unless the alarm is armed and the bike's key is in the run position. I could probably go further into detail but like I said I can't read the diagrams you posted.
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